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	<title>Comments on: Neti pots – Ancient Ayurvedic Treatment Validated by Scientific Evidence</title>
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		<title>By: Neti Pots for Sinus Congestion: Validated science? &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-42056</link>
		<dc:creator>Neti Pots for Sinus Congestion: Validated science? &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harriet Hall reviews neti pots over at Science-Based Medicine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: edgar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea why some people have such a dramatic reaction 

maybe some folk&#039;s tonic is less than iso?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea why some people have such a dramatic reaction </p>
<p>maybe some folk&#8217;s tonic is less than iso?</p>
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		<title>By: Perky Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perky Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*shudder* 

I suppose it&#039;s like the fingernails plus chalkboard reaction-- who can say why some find it mildly annoying and others find it soul-searingly torturous. I imagine it comes down to sensory processing differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shudder* </p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s like the fingernails plus chalkboard reaction&#8211; who can say why some find it mildly annoying and others find it soul-searingly torturous. I imagine it comes down to sensory processing differences.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds awful.
But you&#039;ll pry my neil-med sinus rinse out of my cold, dead, nostril!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds awful.<br />
But you&#8217;ll pry my neil-med sinus rinse out of my cold, dead, nostril!</p>
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		<title>By: AppealToAuthority</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36683</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most instructions use a hypertonic solution at body temperature.  The Cochrane review was equivocal as to whether hypertonic vs isotonic made any difference in effect. 

I have no idea why some people have such a dramatic reaction -- but it sounds similar to what I have experienced during particularly bad hay fever, when large volumes of liquid containing very little mucus slosh about into my sinuses while asleep, waking me up with an intense burning sensation which seems to be located in the frontal sinuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most instructions use a hypertonic solution at body temperature.  The Cochrane review was equivocal as to whether hypertonic vs isotonic made any difference in effect. </p>
<p>I have no idea why some people have such a dramatic reaction &#8212; but it sounds similar to what I have experienced during particularly bad hay fever, when large volumes of liquid containing very little mucus slosh about into my sinuses while asleep, waking me up with an intense burning sensation which seems to be located in the frontal sinuses.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36642</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is surprising, I have recommended the bottle to many people, and no one has reported discomfort.  it was surprisingly comfortable.  The solution makes it it isotonic, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is surprising, I have recommended the bottle to many people, and no one has reported discomfort.  it was surprisingly comfortable.  The solution makes it it isotonic, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Perky Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36548</link>
		<dc:creator>Perky Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AppealToAuthority&#039;s description &quot;feels like applying acid on the brain to some people&quot; effectively describes my reaction to the neti pot. I am thrilled it works, but I would never ever be able to use it myself, any more than I could self-administer a dental drill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AppealToAuthority&#8217;s description &#8220;feels like applying acid on the brain to some people&#8221; effectively describes my reaction to the neti pot. I am thrilled it works, but I would never ever be able to use it myself, any more than I could self-administer a dental drill.</p>
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		<title>By: AppealToAuthority</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36478</link>
		<dc:creator>AppealToAuthority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Separately to whether it works, nasal irrigation is easy for some people, feels like drowning to some, feels like applying acid to the brain to others, and some just can&#039;t seem to get geometry and gravity working together.

I found it easy to get the water in (and out). Much less erky than many medical procedures I have had to do. 

And it was great for when I had sinus trouble (which in turn was a side effect of hay fever).

As you can see from the pic, a &#039;neti&#039; pot is very similar to a teapot, and in fact most small teapots will work just fine.

Even though it seemed to work for me, I was somewhat  alarmed when the person who originally recommended it said it would work better if I used urine.  I declined this suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Separately to whether it works, nasal irrigation is easy for some people, feels like drowning to some, feels like applying acid to the brain to others, and some just can&#8217;t seem to get geometry and gravity working together.</p>
<p>I found it easy to get the water in (and out). Much less erky than many medical procedures I have had to do. </p>
<p>And it was great for when I had sinus trouble (which in turn was a side effect of hay fever).</p>
<p>As you can see from the pic, a &#8216;neti&#8217; pot is very similar to a teapot, and in fact most small teapots will work just fine.</p>
<p>Even though it seemed to work for me, I was somewhat  alarmed when the person who originally recommended it said it would work better if I used urine.  I declined this suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: keleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>keleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmoran asked: “You pour the salt solution from the Neti pot into one nostril and it drains out the other nostril. ”

Has anyone actually achieved this? I am not sure that it is anatomically and gravitationally possible, without a finely coordinated series of contortions or a nasal septal defect.

The nicely formed stream of fluid shown in the picture looks phony, too, for a flow that is supposedly finding its way out via the nasopharynx.
It just doesn’t look right.

Yes, I have achieved this and it is not hard. My allergist first suggested using a bulb syringe for irrigation but it wasn&#039;t working well enough. I switched to a neti pot when needed, and got a nasal adaptor for the Water Pik for when it&#039;s a real stubborn chunk. I only found it slightly weird the first few times. Not unpleasant. Also I use distilled water, as tap water can be irritating. I prefer my water cool but most people I know like to use warm. I find cool water to be much more soothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pmoran asked: “You pour the salt solution from the Neti pot into one nostril and it drains out the other nostril. ”</p>
<p>Has anyone actually achieved this? I am not sure that it is anatomically and gravitationally possible, without a finely coordinated series of contortions or a nasal septal defect.</p>
<p>The nicely formed stream of fluid shown in the picture looks phony, too, for a flow that is supposedly finding its way out via the nasopharynx.<br />
It just doesn’t look right.</p>
<p>Yes, I have achieved this and it is not hard. My allergist first suggested using a bulb syringe for irrigation but it wasn&#8217;t working well enough. I switched to a neti pot when needed, and got a nasal adaptor for the Water Pik for when it&#8217;s a real stubborn chunk. I only found it slightly weird the first few times. Not unpleasant. Also I use distilled water, as tap water can be irritating. I prefer my water cool but most people I know like to use warm. I find cool water to be much more soothing.</p>
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		<title>By: More on neti pots &#171; Later On</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36458</link>
		<dc:creator>More on neti pots &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted in Daily life, Medical, Science at 4:27 pm by LeisureGuy Occasional use good, regular use bad. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36443</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grinch, it is obvious that my creative bolding did not help.  Try the discussion at http://www.realclimate.org/ .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grinch, it is obvious that my creative bolding did not help.  Try the discussion at <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: trrll</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Neti pot works exactly as pictured. It is not a matter of inhaling water, although I gather that some people do snort salt water into their nose (but presumably not their lungs) as an alternative method. You can even breathe through your mouth while using the pot. If the water is at body temperature, it is not particularly unpleasant, although slightly disconcerting at first. The water, of course, should be clean and boiled to be free of microorganisms. I suspect that the decongestant effect is not so much due to washing out of mucus as to the hypertonicity of the saline reducing tissue swelling. You blow your nose gently afterwards to clear out the remaining fluid.  As in blowing  your nose generally, I imagine that it is possible to force fluid into your ears if you blow too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Neti pot works exactly as pictured. It is not a matter of inhaling water, although I gather that some people do snort salt water into their nose (but presumably not their lungs) as an alternative method. You can even breathe through your mouth while using the pot. If the water is at body temperature, it is not particularly unpleasant, although slightly disconcerting at first. The water, of course, should be clean and boiled to be free of microorganisms. I suspect that the decongestant effect is not so much due to washing out of mucus as to the hypertonicity of the saline reducing tissue swelling. You blow your nose gently afterwards to clear out the remaining fluid.  As in blowing  your nose generally, I imagine that it is possible to force fluid into your ears if you blow too hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Grinch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, that was a very clever usage of &lt;b&gt;bolding&lt;b&gt; of the words to drive your point home.  However, the question is a valid one and since, IMHO, these are the best SCIENTIFIC minds (see my use of capitalization).  Besides, I think if we can discuss evolution, I think I can ask the question about climate change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, that was a very clever usage of <b>bolding</b><b> of the words to drive your point home.  However, the question is a valid one and since, IMHO, these are the best SCIENTIFIC minds (see my use of capitalization).  Besides, I think if we can discuss evolution, I think I can ask the question about climate change?</b></p>
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		<title>By: Grinch</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2841&#038;cpage=1#comment-36415</link>
		<dc:creator>Grinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, that was a very clever usage of &lt;b&gt;bolding&lt;b&gt; of the words to drive your point home.  However, the question is a valid one and since, IMHO, these are the best SCIENTIFIC minds (see my use of capitalization).  Besides I think if we can discuss evolution, I think I can ask the question about climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, that was a very clever usage of <b>bolding</b><b> of the words to drive your point home.  However, the question is a valid one and since, IMHO, these are the best SCIENTIFIC minds (see my use of capitalization).  Besides I think if we can discuss evolution, I think I can ask the question about climate change.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Topp and the Big Bad Blog &#187; The morning coffee and the black screen of death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Topp and the Big Bad Blog &#187; The morning coffee and the black screen of death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and interesting reading, variety is the spice of the morning coffee. Today they write about a traditional Indian remedy that works. So go clean out your nose with salt water. It&#8217;s good for you, in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and interesting reading, variety is the spice of the morning coffee. Today they write about a traditional Indian remedy that works. So go clean out your nose with salt water. It&#8217;s good for you, in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News From Around The Blogosphere 12.1.09 &#171; Skepacabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>News From Around The Blogosphere 12.1.09 &#171; Skepacabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Has science validated the ancient Ayurvedic &#8216;Neti pot&#8217; as a legitimate medical treatment... &#8211; I first heard about the Neti pot a few years ago when it was featured in an episode of Six [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Has science validated the ancient Ayurvedic &#8216;Neti pot&#8217; as a legitimate medical treatment&#8230; &#8211; I first heard about the Neti pot a few years ago when it was featured in an episode of Six [...]</p>
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		<title>By: desiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>desiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tried the neti pot when i was all stuffed up from a cold and it did relieve some of my sinus pressure, but i also trapped some water in my ear that was super painful and took about 3 weeks to totally drain. i googled &quot;neti pot ear fluid&quot; and i am not the only one that&#039;s had this problem. was there anything in the study about people messing up their ears with the neti? i&#039;m never doing it again! back to good old fashioned snarfing up water from a cup for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried the neti pot when i was all stuffed up from a cold and it did relieve some of my sinus pressure, but i also trapped some water in my ear that was super painful and took about 3 weeks to totally drain. i googled &#8220;neti pot ear fluid&#8221; and i am not the only one that&#8217;s had this problem. was there anything in the study about people messing up their ears with the neti? i&#8217;m never doing it again! back to good old fashioned snarfing up water from a cup for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the AFP they mentioned it was necessary to keep tissues handy for half an hour afterwards to cope with residual drainage. 

A beautifully ambiguous slogan just occurred to me: The Neti pot is snot effective.</description>
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<p>A beautifully ambiguous slogan just occurred to me: The Neti pot is snot effective.</p>
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		<title>By: EricG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmoran

i used a similar device that uses pressure from a squeezebottle to achieve that.  yes, it is possible, i have achieved that.  it is a horrible coughing mess, but i guess it works.  I was quite surprised at the relatively short distance is had to travel before coming out the other end.  I anticipated it finding its way everywhere...pretty much straight shot in one nostril and out the other. (edit...your comment appeared, mine was eaten) - the seal/pressure is key, i think you got it.

to 2nd anipodean&#039;s idea, try swimming backstroke (the part when you do your flip turn and streamline under water for a piece) and stop exhaling from your nose.  yep, that&#039;ll do it too.</description>
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<p>i used a similar device that uses pressure from a squeezebottle to achieve that.  yes, it is possible, i have achieved that.  it is a horrible coughing mess, but i guess it works.  I was quite surprised at the relatively short distance is had to travel before coming out the other end.  I anticipated it finding its way everywhere&#8230;pretty much straight shot in one nostril and out the other. (edit&#8230;your comment appeared, mine was eaten) &#8211; the seal/pressure is key, i think you got it.</p>
<p>to 2nd anipodean&#8217;s idea, try swimming backstroke (the part when you do your flip turn and streamline under water for a piece) and stop exhaling from your nose.  yep, that&#8217;ll do it too.</p>
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		<title>By: EricG</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmoran

i used a similar device that uses pressure from a squeezebottle to achieve that.  yes, it is possible, i have achieved that.  it is a horrible coughing mess, but i guess it works.  I was quite surprised at the relatively short distance is had to travel before coming out the other end.  I anticipated it finding its way everywhere...pretty much straight shot in one nostril and out the other.

to 2nd anipodean&#039;s idea, try swimming backstroke (the part when you do your flip turn and streamline under water for a piece) and stop exhaling from your nose.  yep, that&#039;ll do it too.</description>
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<p>i used a similar device that uses pressure from a squeezebottle to achieve that.  yes, it is possible, i have achieved that.  it is a horrible coughing mess, but i guess it works.  I was quite surprised at the relatively short distance is had to travel before coming out the other end.  I anticipated it finding its way everywhere&#8230;pretty much straight shot in one nostril and out the other.</p>
<p>to 2nd anipodean&#8217;s idea, try swimming backstroke (the part when you do your flip turn and streamline under water for a piece) and stop exhaling from your nose.  yep, that&#8217;ll do it too.</p>
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