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	<title>Comments on: Yet another nail in the coffin of the myth that the MMR vaccine causes autism</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny McCarthy Is Not Evil But She Could Be Responsible For Your Kid Dying &#171; &#8230;salted lithium.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny McCarthy Is Not Evil But She Could Be Responsible For Your Kid Dying &#171; &#8230;salted lithium.</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] 1998 a research paper was published in the prestigious Lancet medical journal, written by a previously unknown American [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; The General Medical Council to Andrew Wakefield: &#8220;The panel is satisfied that your conduct was irresponsible and dishonest&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; The General Medical Council to Andrew Wakefield: &#8220;The panel is satisfied that your conduct was irresponsible and dishonest&#8221;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] study that failed to find any correlation between MMR and autism, or, as I put it at the time, yet another nail in the coffin of the myth that the MMR vaccine causes autism. Andrew Wakefield&#8217;s repeated claims that the MMR can cause or &#8220;trigger&#8221; autism in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I am going through the blogs between folding loads of laundry, I encountered  today&#039;s skeptico.blogs posting, where he posted a new review of the data:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/125/Supplement_1/S1

Gastrointestinal problems are not limited to autistic children.  My sister was born two months premature in the early 1960s, and she started with terrible problems.  Turns out she was also born lactose intolerant (there is a genetic component, my daughter developed lactose intolerance as a teenager).  Fortunately it was discovered fairly early on (this was the era of cloth diapers!), and she grew up perfectly normal as the one kid in any group who was not allowed to drink milk or eat cheese.  She is a mom to a normal high school aged son, who is also lactose intolerant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I am going through the blogs between folding loads of laundry, I encountered  today&#8217;s skeptico.blogs posting, where he posted a new review of the data:<br />
<a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/125/Supplement_1/S1" rel="nofollow">http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/125/Supplement_1/S1</a></p>
<p>Gastrointestinal problems are not limited to autistic children.  My sister was born two months premature in the early 1960s, and she started with terrible problems.  Turns out she was also born lactose intolerant (there is a genetic component, my daughter developed lactose intolerance as a teenager).  Fortunately it was discovered fairly early on (this was the era of cloth diapers!), and she grew up perfectly normal as the one kid in any group who was not allowed to drink milk or eat cheese.  She is a mom to a normal high school aged son, who is also lactose intolerant.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41294</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remember that Wakefield&#039;s notorious 1998 paper only really claimed there was measles virus in the gut of those children.  

Why would it matter if the measles in the gut was from getting measles, the single measles vaccine or the MMR vaccine?  And if it is the MMR, why not start in the 1970s when it was being used in the USA and other countries?

Especially when it was not there, the PCR results were false positives --- when Wakefield was told this he still went with the false data.  You can read about in the this testimony (it is in the first dozen pages):
ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/transcripts/day10.pdf

Here it is (from a transcription on the LeftBrainRightBrain blog):

Q Okay. Did you personally test the gut biopsy samples for measles RNA?
A Yes.

Q What tests did you perform?
A A PCR test, a polymerase chain reaction.

Q What results did you receive from the gut biopsy materials for measles RNA?
A They were all negative.

Q They were always negative?
A Yes. There were a few cases of false positive results, which I used a method to see whether they were real positive results or false positive, and in every case they turned out to be false positive results. Essentially all the samples tested were negative.

.......

Q So you personally tested while you were in Dr. Wakefield’s lab gut biopsy material, CSF and PBMCs?
A Yes, that’s right.

Q And all the results were either negative, or if they were positive it always turned out that they were false positives?
A Yes, that’s correct.

Q Did you inform Dr. Wakefield of the negative results?
A Yes. Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember that Wakefield&#8217;s notorious 1998 paper only really claimed there was measles virus in the gut of those children.  </p>
<p>Why would it matter if the measles in the gut was from getting measles, the single measles vaccine or the MMR vaccine?  And if it is the MMR, why not start in the 1970s when it was being used in the USA and other countries?</p>
<p>Especially when it was not there, the PCR results were false positives &#8212; when Wakefield was told this he still went with the false data.  You can read about in the this testimony (it is in the first dozen pages):<br />
<a href="ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/transcripts/day10.pdf" rel="nofollow">ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/transcripts/day10.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here it is (from a transcription on the LeftBrainRightBrain blog):</p>
<p>Q Okay. Did you personally test the gut biopsy samples for measles RNA?<br />
A Yes.</p>
<p>Q What tests did you perform?<br />
A A PCR test, a polymerase chain reaction.</p>
<p>Q What results did you receive from the gut biopsy materials for measles RNA?<br />
A They were all negative.</p>
<p>Q They were always negative?<br />
A Yes. There were a few cases of false positive results, which I used a method to see whether they were real positive results or false positive, and in every case they turned out to be false positive results. Essentially all the samples tested were negative.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Q So you personally tested while you were in Dr. Wakefield’s lab gut biopsy material, CSF and PBMCs?<br />
A Yes, that’s right.</p>
<p>Q And all the results were either negative, or if they were positive it always turned out that they were false positives?<br />
A Yes, that’s correct.</p>
<p>Q Did you inform Dr. Wakefield of the negative results?<br />
A Yes. Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41288</link>
		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoe237,

“I just wondered where they got the idea of MMR/bowel link.“ No, I do not believe that there were reports of children who had contracted measles in the 1950s (or in any other time period)presenting GI disorder symptomology. Rather, reports of profound GI distress (by their parents) in children with autism began surfacing in the ‘80s and ‘90s. This does NOT mean there is a causal relationship between the MMR jab and colitis in some children (I doubt it). It may just mean that GI disorders (e.g., colitis, lymphoid nodular hyperplasia) are a symptom of ASD in some children (or not). This is being investigated right now. Time will tell.</description>
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<p>“I just wondered where they got the idea of MMR/bowel link.“ No, I do not believe that there were reports of children who had contracted measles in the 1950s (or in any other time period)presenting GI disorder symptomology. Rather, reports of profound GI distress (by their parents) in children with autism began surfacing in the ‘80s and ‘90s. This does NOT mean there is a causal relationship between the MMR jab and colitis in some children (I doubt it). It may just mean that GI disorders (e.g., colitis, lymphoid nodular hyperplasia) are a symptom of ASD in some children (or not). This is being investigated right now. Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe237</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41237</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe237</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is there any association between measles itself and bowel disease?

There does not appear to be. Mady Hornig, for instance, recently tried to replicate Andrew Wakefield’s study and found no evidence. The studies that reynaud 5 listed are pretty much all crap, but I don’t have time to march through each and every one now. The dude needs to learn how to put line breaks in his list of references, too.&quot;

Thanks. I just wondered where they got the idea of MMR/bowel link, if kids who had measles in the &#039;50s had those symptoms or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there any association between measles itself and bowel disease?</p>
<p>There does not appear to be. Mady Hornig, for instance, recently tried to replicate Andrew Wakefield’s study and found no evidence. The studies that reynaud 5 listed are pretty much all crap, but I don’t have time to march through each and every one now. The dude needs to learn how to put line breaks in his list of references, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks. I just wondered where they got the idea of MMR/bowel link, if kids who had measles in the &#8217;50s had those symptoms or something.</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41231</link>
		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Gorski, did I ever address you or refer to you as &quot;dude&quot;? 

Sorry for posting the citiations as I did. I posted them as I found them. 

Could every one of the individuals who conducted all of the studies cited above be &quot;crap&quot; medical professionals (MPH, PhD, &amp; MDs)? I ask that sincerely. The probability that every single one of those studies is invalid and that they are all &quot;crap&quot; seems unlikely.

Chris, Thank You for providing the link to Ben Goldacre’s blog and the reference to his book Bad Science, and Mady Hornig&#039;s paper. That is very helpful. I will dive into those next.

&quot;And, you need to look at ALL of the research....&quot; Of course. Of course. We all do. The tenets of medicine, and standards of care, are always evolving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Gorski, did I ever address you or refer to you as &#8220;dude&#8221;? </p>
<p>Sorry for posting the citiations as I did. I posted them as I found them. </p>
<p>Could every one of the individuals who conducted all of the studies cited above be &#8220;crap&#8221; medical professionals (MPH, PhD, &amp; MDs)? I ask that sincerely. The probability that every single one of those studies is invalid and that they are all &#8220;crap&#8221; seems unlikely.</p>
<p>Chris, Thank You for providing the link to Ben Goldacre’s blog and the reference to his book Bad Science, and Mady Hornig&#8217;s paper. That is very helpful. I will dive into those next.</p>
<p>&#8220;And, you need to look at ALL of the research&#8230;.&#8221; Of course. Of course. We all do. The tenets of medicine, and standards of care, are always evolving.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41227</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is there any association between measles itself and bowel disease?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There does not appear to be. Mady Hornig, for instance, recently tried to replicate Andrew Wakefield&#039;s study and found no evidence. The studies that  reynaud 5 listed are pretty much all crap, but I don&#039;t have time to march through each and every one now. The dude needs to learn how to put line breaks in his list of references, too.

BTW, stay tuned. Monday&#039;s post is about the GMC&#039;s ruling on Andrew Wakefield. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is there any association between measles itself and bowel disease?</p></blockquote>
<p>There does not appear to be. Mady Hornig, for instance, recently tried to replicate Andrew Wakefield&#8217;s study and found no evidence. The studies that  reynaud 5 listed are pretty much all crap, but I don&#8217;t have time to march through each and every one now. The dude needs to learn how to put line breaks in his list of references, too.</p>
<p>BTW, stay tuned. Monday&#8217;s post is about the GMC&#8217;s ruling on Andrew Wakefield. <img src='http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danio</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41220</link>
		<dc:creator>Danio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoe237, there is no evidence to support this link.  A little poking around on PubMed suggests the typical case of small studies with shoddy methods showing a possible association which is not supported by subsequent, larger/better studies.  

In case you missed it here&#039;s a nice explanation of evidence (or manipulation thereof) for &#039;autistic enterocolitis&#039; as described by Wakefield:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/06/the_autism_omnibus_the_difference_betwee.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoe237, there is no evidence to support this link.  A little poking around on PubMed suggests the typical case of small studies with shoddy methods showing a possible association which is not supported by subsequent, larger/better studies.  </p>
<p>In case you missed it here&#8217;s a nice explanation of evidence (or manipulation thereof) for &#8216;autistic enterocolitis&#8217; as described by Wakefield:</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/06/the_autism_omnibus_the_difference_betwee.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/06/the_autism_omnibus_the_difference_betwee.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zoe237</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41203</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe237</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any association between measles itself and bowel disease?</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41202</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, good that got posted.  I am not going to attempt the wall of text listing of &quot;studies.&quot;  Since I suspect the results will be similar, they are either small case studies, letters to the editor, speculations or published in vanity journals similiar to &quot;Autism Insights.&quot;  For more on that journal:
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/01/autism-insights-another-journal-for-questionable-autism-research/

Also, you need to look at all of the research, not just the ones you agree with.  You might look at Mady Hornig&#039;s paper &lt;i&gt;Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study&lt;/i&gt;.  Which is indexed on PubMed, and actually free to read at the Public Library of Science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good that got posted.  I am not going to attempt the wall of text listing of &#8220;studies.&#8221;  Since I suspect the results will be similar, they are either small case studies, letters to the editor, speculations or published in vanity journals similiar to &#8220;Autism Insights.&#8221;  For more on that journal:<br />
<a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/01/autism-insights-another-journal-for-questionable-autism-research/" rel="nofollow">http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/01/autism-insights-another-journal-for-questionable-autism-research/</a></p>
<p>Also, you need to look at all of the research, not just the ones you agree with.  You might look at Mady Hornig&#8217;s paper <i>Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study</i>.  Which is indexed on PubMed, and actually free to read at the Public Library of Science.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41199</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The papers given:
Balzola, F., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Confrmation of a new infammatory bowel disease in an Italian cohort of patients. Gastroenterology 2005;128(Suppl. 2);A-303 
.... was not found in PubMed...

Balzola, F., et al., Panenteric IBD-like disease in a patient with regressive autism shown for the first time by wireless capsule enteroscopy: Another piece in the jig-saw of the gut-brain syndrome? American Journal of Gastroenterology, 2005. 100(4): p. 979-981.
.... no abstract, looks like a case report in a letter

Galiatsatos, P., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Fact or fiction. Canadian Journal of Gastroenterology. 2009;23:95-98
... two case reports...

Gonzalez, L., et al., Endoscopic and Histological Characteristics of the Digestive Mucosa in Autistic
Children with gastro-Intestinal Symptoms. Arch Venez Pueric Pediatr, 2005;69:19-25. 
.... not found on PubMed...


Krigsman, A. et al., Clinical presentation and Histologic Findings at Ileocolonoscopy in Children with Autistic spectrum Disorder and Chronic Gastrointestinal symptoms. Autism Insights 2010:2 1-11. 
...... I know this will not be indexed at PubMed because it is published in a non-peer reviewed journal created just to publish papers favorable to Wakefield.  This is the missing but often vaulted research from Krigsman, spoken often in the MMR Hoax chapter of Ben Goldacre&#039;s book &lt;i&gt;Bad Science&lt;/i&gt; (you can download that chapter on his blog, I linked to it in a comment I made an hour ago, but it seems to have not made been posted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The papers given:<br />
Balzola, F., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Confrmation of a new infammatory bowel disease in an Italian cohort of patients. Gastroenterology 2005;128(Suppl. 2);A-303<br />
&#8230;. was not found in PubMed&#8230;</p>
<p>Balzola, F., et al., Panenteric IBD-like disease in a patient with regressive autism shown for the first time by wireless capsule enteroscopy: Another piece in the jig-saw of the gut-brain syndrome? American Journal of Gastroenterology, 2005. 100(4): p. 979-981.<br />
&#8230;. no abstract, looks like a case report in a letter</p>
<p>Galiatsatos, P., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Fact or fiction. Canadian Journal of Gastroenterology. 2009;23:95-98<br />
&#8230; two case reports&#8230;</p>
<p>Gonzalez, L., et al., Endoscopic and Histological Characteristics of the Digestive Mucosa in Autistic<br />
Children with gastro-Intestinal Symptoms. Arch Venez Pueric Pediatr, 2005;69:19-25.<br />
&#8230;. not found on PubMed&#8230;</p>
<p>Krigsman, A. et al., Clinical presentation and Histologic Findings at Ileocolonoscopy in Children with Autistic spectrum Disorder and Chronic Gastrointestinal symptoms. Autism Insights 2010:2 1-11.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; I know this will not be indexed at PubMed because it is published in a non-peer reviewed journal created just to publish papers favorable to Wakefield.  This is the missing but often vaulted research from Krigsman, spoken often in the MMR Hoax chapter of Ben Goldacre&#8217;s book <i>Bad Science</i> (you can download that chapter on his blog, I linked to it in a comment I made an hour ago, but it seems to have not made been posted).</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41197</link>
		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Gorski, Dr. Hall:

In addition:

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And Uhlmann, V., et al., Potential viral pathogenic mechanism
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of regressive-onset autism. J. Child Neurol. 2000;15:429-435.
And Parracho, H., Differences between the gut flora of children
with autistic spectrum disorders and that of healthy children.
Journal of Medical Microbiology. 2005;54:987-991.

---I do NOT believe that the MMR vaccine causes Autism (because there is zero compelling evidence that it does). And there certainly is no data that indicates a causal relationship. The etiology of Autism is undoubtedly complex. But, is it possible that the MMR can cause, or contribute to the cause of, the development of gastrointestinal disorder, injury, or impairment within a small subset of the pediatric population? It seems it is possible. Given the preliminary findings of the investigations cited above, it seems reasonable that more biological-based studies are called for.---

Respectfully,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Gorski, Dr. Hall:</p>
<p>In addition:</p>
<p>Horvath K., et al., High prevalence of gastrointestinal<br />
symptoms in children with autistic spectrum disorder (ASD). J<br />
Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2000, 31:S174. And Melmed, R., et<br />
al., Metabolic markers and gastrointestinal symptoms in children<br />
with autism and related disorders. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr<br />
2000, 31:S31–S32. And Horvath, K. and Perman, J., Autistic<br />
disorder and gastrointestinal disease. Current Opinion in<br />
Pediatrics 2002, 14:583–587. And Furlano, R., et al., Quantitative<br />
immunohistochemistry shows colonic epithelial pathology<br />
and γδ-T cell infiltration in autistic enterocolitis. J Pediatrics<br />
2001;138:366-372. And Torrente, F., et al., Enteropathy with T<br />
cell infiltration and epithelial IgG deposition in autism. Molecular<br />
Psychiatry. 2002;7:375-382. And Torrente, F. et al., Focalenhanced<br />
gastritis in regressive autism with features distinct from<br />
Crohn’s and helicobacter pylori gastritis. Am. J. Gastroenterol.<br />
2004;4:598-605. And Ashwood, P. et al., Intestinal lymphocyte<br />
populations in children with regressive autism: Evidence<br />
for extensive mucosal immunopathology. J. Clin. Immunol.<br />
2003;23:504-517. And Ashwood. P., et al., Spontaneous mucosal<br />
lymphocyte cytokine profiles in children with regressive autism<br />
and gastrointestinal symptoms: Mucosal immune activation and<br />
reduced counter regulatory interleukin-10. Journal of Clinical<br />
Immunology. 2004:24:664-673. And Wakefield, A., Enterocolonic<br />
encephalopathy, autism and opioid receptor ligands.<br />
Alimentary Pharmacology &amp; Therapeutics. 2002;16:663-674.<br />
And Uhlmann, V., et al., Potential viral pathogenic mechanism<br />
for new variant inflammatory bowel disease. Molecular Pathology<br />
2002;55:84-90. And Sabra. A., et al., Ileal-lymphoid-nodular<br />
hyperplasia, non-specific colitis and pervasive developmental<br />
disorder in children. The Lancet, 1998;352:234-235. And Sabra,<br />
A., et al., Linkage of ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia (ILNH),<br />
food allergy and CNS developmental: evidence for a non-IgE<br />
association. Ann Allergy Asthma Immunol, 1999;82:8. And<br />
Valicenti-McDermott M., et al., Frequency of gastrointestinal<br />
symptoms in children with autistic spectrum disorders and<br />
association with family history of autoimmune disease.<br />
Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics. 2006;27:128-136.<br />
And Richler, J., Luyster, R., Risi, S., Hsu, Wan-Ling, Dawson, G.,<br />
Bernier, R., et al., Is there a ‘regressive phenotype’ of autistic<br />
spectrum disorder associated with the measles-mumps-rubella<br />
vaccine? A CPEA study. Autism Dev. Dis. 2006, 36:299-316. And<br />
Sandler, R., Short-term benefit from oral vancomycin treatment<br />
of regressive-onset autism. J. Child Neurol. 2000;15:429-435.<br />
And Parracho, H., Differences between the gut flora of children<br />
with autistic spectrum disorders and that of healthy children.<br />
Journal of Medical Microbiology. 2005;54:987-991.</p>
<p>&#8212;I do NOT believe that the MMR vaccine causes Autism (because there is zero compelling evidence that it does). And there certainly is no data that indicates a causal relationship. The etiology of Autism is undoubtedly complex. But, is it possible that the MMR can cause, or contribute to the cause of, the development of gastrointestinal disorder, injury, or impairment within a small subset of the pediatric population? It seems it is possible. Given the preliminary findings of the investigations cited above, it seems reasonable that more biological-based studies are called for.&#8212;</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41195</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Hall, here is one recent paper: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study&lt;/a&gt;.

For a good indepth analysis of the MMR/Autism hoax,  reynaud 5, head over to Ben Goldacre&#039;s blog, especially the one with a link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.badscience.net/2010/01/the-wakefield-mmr-verdict/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MMR chapter&lt;/a&gt; in his excellent book &lt;i&gt;Bad Science&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Hall, here is one recent paper: <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003140" rel="nofollow">Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study</a>.</p>
<p>For a good indepth analysis of the MMR/Autism hoax,  reynaud 5, head over to Ben Goldacre&#8217;s blog, especially the one with a link to the <a href="http://www.badscience.net/2010/01/the-wakefield-mmr-verdict/" rel="nofollow">MMR chapter</a> in his excellent book <i>Bad Science</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Hall,

But, that&#039;s just it. It seems the key finding (chronic colitis found in ASD children) that Dr. Wakefield reported in his &quot;early case report&quot; published in The Lancet (in 1998) HAS been replicated by other medical researchers. (Interestingly, investigations are taking place in multiple other countries: Italy, Canada, USA, and Venezuela.) As I read these papers, I find them hard to entirely dismiss. 

Balzola, F., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Confrmation of a new infammatory bowel disease in an Italian cohort of patients. Gastroenterology 2005;128(Suppl. 2);A-303. 

Balzola, F., et al., Panenteric IBD-like disease in a patient with regressive autism shown for the first time by wireless capsule enteroscopy: Another piece in the jig-saw of the gut-brain syndrome? American Journal of Gastroenterology, 2005. 100(4): p. 979-981. 

Galiatsatos, P., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Fact or fiction. Canadian Journal of Gastroenterology. 2009;23:95-98. 

Gonzalez, L., et al., Endoscopic and Histological Characteristics of the Digestive Mucosa in Autistic 
Children with gastro-Intestinal Symptoms. Arch Venez Pueric Pediatr, 2005;69:19-25. 

Krigsman, A. et al., Clinical presentation and Histologic Findings at Ileocolonoscopy in Children with Autistic spectrum Disorder and Chronic Gastrointestinal symptoms. Autism Insights 2010:2 1-11. 

Respectfully,

(Dr. Hall, BTW, my late father was a family practice MD for over 40 years, University of Illinois. Thank you for your service to families and in the Air Force).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Hall,</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s just it. It seems the key finding (chronic colitis found in ASD children) that Dr. Wakefield reported in his &#8220;early case report&#8221; published in The Lancet (in 1998) HAS been replicated by other medical researchers. (Interestingly, investigations are taking place in multiple other countries: Italy, Canada, USA, and Venezuela.) As I read these papers, I find them hard to entirely dismiss. </p>
<p>Balzola, F., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Confrmation of a new infammatory bowel disease in an Italian cohort of patients. Gastroenterology 2005;128(Suppl. 2);A-303. </p>
<p>Balzola, F., et al., Panenteric IBD-like disease in a patient with regressive autism shown for the first time by wireless capsule enteroscopy: Another piece in the jig-saw of the gut-brain syndrome? American Journal of Gastroenterology, 2005. 100(4): p. 979-981. </p>
<p>Galiatsatos, P., et al., Autistic enterocolitis: Fact or fiction. Canadian Journal of Gastroenterology. 2009;23:95-98. </p>
<p>Gonzalez, L., et al., Endoscopic and Histological Characteristics of the Digestive Mucosa in Autistic<br />
Children with gastro-Intestinal Symptoms. Arch Venez Pueric Pediatr, 2005;69:19-25. </p>
<p>Krigsman, A. et al., Clinical presentation and Histologic Findings at Ileocolonoscopy in Children with Autistic spectrum Disorder and Chronic Gastrointestinal symptoms. Autism Insights 2010:2 1-11. </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>(Dr. Hall, BTW, my late father was a family practice MD for over 40 years, University of Illinois. Thank you for your service to families and in the Air Force).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41182</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the latest on Wakefield 
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=165917</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the latest on Wakefield<br />
<a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=165917" rel="nofollow">http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=165917</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harriet Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41163</link>
		<dc:creator>Harriet Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The text of the Wakefield study clearly said it had not proved an association between MMR and autism. But Wakefield immediately held a press conference and told the world MMR probably causes autism and advised that everyone should stop using the triple vaccine and use individual ones. Individual vaccines were not available in the UK at that time, so children simply went without and endemic measles returned to the UK. Wakefield had applied for a patent for a separate measles vaccine - a conflict of interest which he failed to disclose.

I can&#039;t give the citations, but it&#039;s my understanding that subsequent research showed no association between autism and bowel disease or MMR and bowel disease.

If you want the whole story, read Paul Offit&#039;s book &quot;Autism&#039;s False Prophets.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text of the Wakefield study clearly said it had not proved an association between MMR and autism. But Wakefield immediately held a press conference and told the world MMR probably causes autism and advised that everyone should stop using the triple vaccine and use individual ones. Individual vaccines were not available in the UK at that time, so children simply went without and endemic measles returned to the UK. Wakefield had applied for a patent for a separate measles vaccine &#8211; a conflict of interest which he failed to disclose.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t give the citations, but it&#8217;s my understanding that subsequent research showed no association between autism and bowel disease or MMR and bowel disease.</p>
<p>If you want the whole story, read Paul Offit&#8217;s book &#8220;Autism&#8217;s False Prophets.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Gorski,

I apologize for the misspelling of your name!</description>
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<p>I apologize for the misspelling of your name!</p>
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		<title>By: reynaud 5</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2962&#038;cpage=1#comment-41134</link>
		<dc:creator>reynaud 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Korski,

Disclosure: I am a parent of two children. I work in the medical profession at the graduate level (but I am not an MD). Yes, I did vaccinate my children. No, my children do not have any ASD.

I am not an advocate of MANY of the methods that Andrew Wakefield utilized to execute his case report published in The Lancet in 1998 (who could be?). Much of his conduct was/is -astonishingly- inappropriate. You have rightfully called him to the mat for his conduct. Yet, I wonder if the underlying finding of his case report  (colitis in ASD children)  will ultimately be replicated, and demonstrated to be accurate? [Your comment please!]

In addition, lost in the media circus that erupted around Wakefield&#039;s &quot;early report&quot; of only 12 (!) children is the apparent fact that the 1998 case report by Dr. Wakefield, Professor Walker-Smith and Professor Murch (et al.) published in The Lancet did not state that the MMR vaccine causes autism. 

The Lancet case report reads, quote, &quot;We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome (autistic enterocolitis) described.&quot; The Lancet case report ends with a call for additional research. [Which I believe is appropriate.] &quot;We have identified a chronic enterocolitis in children that may be related to neuropsychiatric dysfunction. In most cases, onset of symptoms was after measles, mumps, and rubella immunisation. Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.&quot; 

I ask, if the case report by Wakefield, Walker-Smith, and Murch published in The Lancet did not say MMR vaccine causes autism, what did some of the co-authors partially retract in 2004? 

It seems nothing. Some of the original co-authors partially retracted an interpretation despite the fact that it never existed in the case report. The co-author&#039;s partial retraction reads, &quot;We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent.&quot; 

In sum, 11 of 13 authors issued a retraction of the interpretation that MMR is a possible trigger for syndrome described. This remains a possibility and a possibility cannot be retracted. [Your comment, please.]

Dr. Korski, this is my current viewpoint. I support a robust universal vaccination policy. Anything less is recklessly irresponsible. And, of course there are no data indicating a causal relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism, or for that matter, any vaccine and autism. But, I am an advocate for a vigorous, proactive, vaccine safety policy (I think pulling Thimerisal out of pediatric vaccines was a prudent and wise action in concert with the Precautionary Pricipal and the Hippocratic Oath). Do I believe personally that there could not be any kind of relationship between any vaccine component and any kind of neurological disorder, injury, or impairment? I don&#039;t know. I submit that no one knows. Not now. I submit that there is a lot to learn in the 21st century about the etiology of Autism. 

With considerable exposure to ASD due to my work, I have come to believe that Autism is a complex disorder affecting the neurological and immunological systems of children (and in some ASD children, profoundly, the gastrointestinal system); and that the etiology of Autism is most probably complex. Of course, &quot;genetics&quot; plays a profound role in the etiology of Autism, as it does in many disorders and disease. But I do not believe that it is accurate to say that genetics &quot;causes&quot; autism.  In terms of &quot;the cause&quot; of Autism, I believe it is highly probable that there are multiple causes (variables), and I believe that genetics and environment are interacting in complex ways. As some epidemiologists have remarked, &quot;Genetics loads the gun. Environment pulls the trigger.&quot; With regard to Autism, could it be an environmental insult -or quite possibly a combination of environmental insults- that trigger the development of ASD in a subset of the pediatric population? If so, who should we consider the leading suspects? Organophosphate herbicides, heavy metals, ubiquitous industrial pollutants/toxins, novel viral pathogens, ingested mercury from food sources (tuna, etc.), mercury from coal-fired power plants, injected mercury from prenatal RhoGAM or flu shots, injected aluminum from vaccines, increased antibiotic use? A combination of several? Could there be a neurological/immunological insult as an outcome of synergistic effect and/or cumulative exposure and load? 

I find it hard to entirely dismiss the concern of several compelling individuals (all pro-vaccine of course). Bernadine Healy, MD (Harvard, former head of NIH); Jon Poling MD, PhD (Department of Neurology and Neurosurgery, Johns Hopkins); Irva Hertz-Picciotto PhD, MPH (UC Davis MIND institute); and Thomas Insel MD (Director of the National Institute of Mental Health and Chair of the federal government&#039;s Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC), tasked with recommending funding priorities for autism research and services). All have recently stated that they suspect that the etiology of autism most probably involves an environmental 
component or trigger. All have stated we should keep an open mind and not stifle biological investigations into the etiology of Autism.

What do you think? I sincerely await your comment and insight with appreciation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Korski,</p>
<p>Disclosure: I am a parent of two children. I work in the medical profession at the graduate level (but I am not an MD). Yes, I did vaccinate my children. No, my children do not have any ASD.</p>
<p>I am not an advocate of MANY of the methods that Andrew Wakefield utilized to execute his case report published in The Lancet in 1998 (who could be?). Much of his conduct was/is -astonishingly- inappropriate. You have rightfully called him to the mat for his conduct. Yet, I wonder if the underlying finding of his case report  (colitis in ASD children)  will ultimately be replicated, and demonstrated to be accurate? [Your comment please!]</p>
<p>In addition, lost in the media circus that erupted around Wakefield&#8217;s &#8220;early report&#8221; of only 12 (!) children is the apparent fact that the 1998 case report by Dr. Wakefield, Professor Walker-Smith and Professor Murch (et al.) published in The Lancet did not state that the MMR vaccine causes autism. </p>
<p>The Lancet case report reads, quote, &#8220;We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome (autistic enterocolitis) described.&#8221; The Lancet case report ends with a call for additional research. [Which I believe is appropriate.] &#8220;We have identified a chronic enterocolitis in children that may be related to neuropsychiatric dysfunction. In most cases, onset of symptoms was after measles, mumps, and rubella immunisation. Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.&#8221; </p>
<p>I ask, if the case report by Wakefield, Walker-Smith, and Murch published in The Lancet did not say MMR vaccine causes autism, what did some of the co-authors partially retract in 2004? </p>
<p>It seems nothing. Some of the original co-authors partially retracted an interpretation despite the fact that it never existed in the case report. The co-author&#8217;s partial retraction reads, &#8220;We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent.&#8221; </p>
<p>In sum, 11 of 13 authors issued a retraction of the interpretation that MMR is a possible trigger for syndrome described. This remains a possibility and a possibility cannot be retracted. [Your comment, please.]</p>
<p>Dr. Korski, this is my current viewpoint. I support a robust universal vaccination policy. Anything less is recklessly irresponsible. And, of course there are no data indicating a causal relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism, or for that matter, any vaccine and autism. But, I am an advocate for a vigorous, proactive, vaccine safety policy (I think pulling Thimerisal out of pediatric vaccines was a prudent and wise action in concert with the Precautionary Pricipal and the Hippocratic Oath). Do I believe personally that there could not be any kind of relationship between any vaccine component and any kind of neurological disorder, injury, or impairment? I don&#8217;t know. I submit that no one knows. Not now. I submit that there is a lot to learn in the 21st century about the etiology of Autism. </p>
<p>With considerable exposure to ASD due to my work, I have come to believe that Autism is a complex disorder affecting the neurological and immunological systems of children (and in some ASD children, profoundly, the gastrointestinal system); and that the etiology of Autism is most probably complex. Of course, &#8220;genetics&#8221; plays a profound role in the etiology of Autism, as it does in many disorders and disease. But I do not believe that it is accurate to say that genetics &#8220;causes&#8221; autism.  In terms of &#8220;the cause&#8221; of Autism, I believe it is highly probable that there are multiple causes (variables), and I believe that genetics and environment are interacting in complex ways. As some epidemiologists have remarked, &#8220;Genetics loads the gun. Environment pulls the trigger.&#8221; With regard to Autism, could it be an environmental insult -or quite possibly a combination of environmental insults- that trigger the development of ASD in a subset of the pediatric population? If so, who should we consider the leading suspects? Organophosphate herbicides, heavy metals, ubiquitous industrial pollutants/toxins, novel viral pathogens, ingested mercury from food sources (tuna, etc.), mercury from coal-fired power plants, injected mercury from prenatal RhoGAM or flu shots, injected aluminum from vaccines, increased antibiotic use? A combination of several? Could there be a neurological/immunological insult as an outcome of synergistic effect and/or cumulative exposure and load? </p>
<p>I find it hard to entirely dismiss the concern of several compelling individuals (all pro-vaccine of course). Bernadine Healy, MD (Harvard, former head of NIH); Jon Poling MD, PhD (Department of Neurology and Neurosurgery, Johns Hopkins); Irva Hertz-Picciotto PhD, MPH (UC Davis MIND institute); and Thomas Insel MD (Director of the National Institute of Mental Health and Chair of the federal government&#8217;s Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC), tasked with recommending funding priorities for autism research and services). All have recently stated that they suspect that the etiology of autism most probably involves an environmental<br />
component or trigger. All have stated we should keep an open mind and not stifle biological investigations into the etiology of Autism.</p>
<p>What do you think? I sincerely await your comment and insight with appreciation.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Alas! None of the media was interested in those, because apparently… wait for it… there was just information, not enough entertainment, in the pro-vaccination stories!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It seems to me that this blows all the pious assertions that they&#039;re just providing &quot;balance&quot; out of the water.</description>
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<p>It seems to me that this blows all the pious assertions that they&#8217;re just providing &#8220;balance&#8221; out of the water.</p>
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