Comments on: Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part II http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351 Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:09:15 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Science-Based Medicine » “Acupuncture Anesthesia”: a Proclamation from Chairman Mao (Part IV) http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-21965 Science-Based Medicine » “Acupuncture Anesthesia”: a Proclamation from Chairman Mao (Part IV) Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:26:28 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-21965 [...] such findings are remarkably similar to those that continue to be reported more than 30 years later. Is that telling us [...] [...] such findings are remarkably similar to those that continue to be reported more than 30 years later. Is that telling us [...]

]]> By: Better Health » Why Non-Scientists Should Not Direct Scientific Efforts: Senator Harkin’s Misguided Beliefs Exposed http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-13567 Better Health » Why Non-Scientists Should Not Direct Scientific Efforts: Senator Harkin’s Misguided Beliefs Exposed Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:36:32 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-13567 [...] medicine” is that it takes some good medical principles and infuses them with scientifically debunked and outdated systems of thought (debunked repeatedly by NCCAM, the very scientific body that Harkin hoped would validate [...] [...] medicine” is that it takes some good medical principles and infuses them with scientifically debunked and outdated systems of thought (debunked repeatedly by NCCAM, the very scientific body that Harkin hoped would validate [...]

]]> By: Science-Based Medicine » Senator Tom Harkin: “Disappointed” that NCCAM hasn’t “validated” more CAM http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-13515 Science-Based Medicine » Senator Tom Harkin: “Disappointed” that NCCAM hasn’t “validated” more CAM Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:02:03 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-13515 [...] Steve Novella. Most vociferous of all has been my fellow SBM blogger Kimball Atwood, who has made similar arguments at even greater length. I’ve also pointed out Harkin and other CAM-friendly legislators [...] [...] Steve Novella. Most vociferous of all has been my fellow SBM blogger Kimball Atwood, who has made similar arguments at even greater length. I’ve also pointed out Harkin and other CAM-friendly legislators [...]

]]> By: Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part III http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12811 Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part III Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:05:06 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12811 [...] the last post, we saw abundant evidence that the late NCCAM Director Stephen Straus and Deputy Director Margaret [...] [...] the last post, we saw abundant evidence that the late NCCAM Director Stephen Straus and Deputy Director Margaret [...]

]]> By: Harriet Hall http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12796 Harriet Hall Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:06:53 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12796 Edzard Ernst's group has reviewed all the published evidence for chelation and has concluded: "The claims that chelation is effective for coronary heart disease, stroke or perpheral arterial disease is based on outdated scientific theories. Chelation therapy has been tested repeatedly, but these clinical trials fail to demonstrate effectiveness. Serious adverse effects, including deaths due to electrolyte depletion, have been associated with chelation therapy... Chelation therapy, as used in alternatie medicine, is disproven, expensive and dangerous. We urge patients not to use this treatment." Also see the article on chelation on the Quackwatch website: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html And it's listed in the Skeptic's Dictionary http://skepdic.com/chelate.html Even Wikipedia says it is ineffective. "The American Heart Association states that there is currently "no scientific evidence to demonstrate any benefit from this form of therapy" and that the "United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the American College of Cardiology all agree with the American Heart Association" that "there have been no adequate, controlled, published scientific studies using currently approved scientific methodology to support this therapy for cardiovascular disease." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy#Heart_disease Edzard Ernst’s group has reviewed all the published evidence for chelation and has concluded:

“The claims that chelation is effective for coronary heart disease, stroke or perpheral arterial disease is based on outdated scientific theories. Chelation therapy has been tested repeatedly, but these clinical trials fail to demonstrate effectiveness. Serious adverse effects, including deaths due to electrolyte depletion, have been associated with chelation therapy… Chelation therapy, as used in alternatie medicine, is disproven, expensive and dangerous. We urge patients not to use this treatment.”

Also see the article on chelation on the Quackwatch website: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html

And it’s listed in the Skeptic’s Dictionary http://skepdic.com/chelate.html

Even Wikipedia says it is ineffective. “The American Heart Association states that there is currently “no scientific evidence to demonstrate any benefit from this form of therapy” and that the “United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the American College of Cardiology all agree with the American Heart Association” that “there have been no adequate, controlled, published scientific studies using currently approved scientific methodology to support this therapy for cardiovascular disease.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy#Heart_disease

]]> By: nevins26 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12793 nevins26 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:02:11 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12793 Today, there exists a treatment that removes plaque and restores blood flow throughout the entire arterial system, treating the brain as well as the body vessels. It's called EDTA oral chelation, available via intravenous and oral supplementation. EDTA oral chelation treats the brain vessels and prevents a stroke. L Arginine treats the body vessels since it does not cross the blood-brain barrier, while EDTA oral chelation treats the brain since it does cross the blood-brain barrier. EDTA intravenous chelation is safe, however, it require a hospital center to be administer, therefore, it become rather expensive, while , EDTA oral chelation remain very inexpensive. Today, there exists a treatment that removes plaque and restores blood flow throughout the entire arterial system, treating the brain as well as the body vessels. It’s called EDTA oral chelation, available via intravenous and oral supplementation. EDTA oral chelation treats the brain vessels and prevents a stroke. L Arginine treats the body vessels since it does not cross the blood-brain barrier, while EDTA oral chelation treats the brain since it does cross the blood-brain barrier. EDTA intravenous chelation is safe, however, it require a hospital center to be administer, therefore, it become rather expensive, while , EDTA oral chelation remain very inexpensive.

]]> By: Dacks http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12737 Dacks Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:33:25 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12737 I've been having a conversation with my 12 year old about the wacky world of woo. She is in hysterics over homeopathy, acupuncture, iridiology, therapeutic touch... I'll show her this post. She needs to have the facts accessible, because so many around her (read teachers and other authority figures) are buying into the crap. I’ve been having a conversation with my 12 year old about the wacky world of woo. She is in hysterics over homeopathy, acupuncture, iridiology, therapeutic touch… I’ll show her this post.
She needs to have the facts accessible, because so many around her (read teachers and other authority figures) are buying into the crap.

]]> By: Fifi http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12678 Fifi Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:34:27 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12678 weing - You can always let them know that MSM is made from a by-product of the pulp and paper industry...it's true and kind of takes the "natural" glow off of it for people who think "what's the harm". weing – You can always let them know that MSM is made from a by-product of the pulp and paper industry…it’s true and kind of takes the “natural” glow off of it for people who think “what’s the harm”.

]]> By: weing http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12673 weing Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:52:30 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12673 Great post. I've been telling patients for some time that further studies have not validated the initial reports of benefit from glucosamine/chondroitin for OA. Many still continue to use it. I think it's all the placebo effect. Others will say, well they didn't study MSM and the supplement I am taking also has MSM. Great post. I’ve been telling patients for some time that further studies have not validated the initial reports of benefit from glucosamine/chondroitin for OA. Many still continue to use it. I think it’s all the placebo effect. Others will say, well they didn’t study MSM and the supplement I am taking also has MSM.

]]> By: Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part II « Bigmikeh1965’s Weblog http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351&cpage=1#comment-12671 Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part II « Bigmikeh1965’s Weblog Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:45:57 +0000 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=351#comment-12671 [...] January 31, 2009 at 09:45 · Filed under Uncategorized Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part II [...] [...] January 31, 2009 at 09:45 · Filed under Uncategorized Science-Based Medicine » Yes We Can! We Can Abolish the NCCAM! Part II [...]

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