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	<title>Comments on: Biologie Totale and other bastard offspring of Ryke Geerd Hamer&#8217;s German New Medicine</title>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For some cancer patients, psychotherapy can be enormously helpful in resolving the now “awakened giant.” It’s unlikely that this contributes to longevity,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, emerging evidence from clinical trials is quite strong that psychotherapy does not contribute to prolonged survival in cancer patients--contrary to claims and studies of a couple of decades ago. However, as you point out, this new evidence showing that psychotherapy does not prolong the lives of cancer patients does not mean it can&#039;t have a great effect on quality of life issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For some cancer patients, psychotherapy can be enormously helpful in resolving the now “awakened giant.” It’s unlikely that this contributes to longevity,</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, emerging evidence from clinical trials is quite strong that psychotherapy does not contribute to prolonged survival in cancer patients&#8211;contrary to claims and studies of a couple of decades ago. However, as you point out, this new evidence showing that psychotherapy does not prolong the lives of cancer patients does not mean it can&#8217;t have a great effect on quality of life issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tarzwell</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44773</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Tarzwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How aggravating to see pure charlatanism made to look semi-plausible by hijacking and distorting important ideas from psychodynamics.

We&#039;ve known since Bowlby the developmental impact of childhood trauma and its astonishing pathological power in the production of psychiatric symptoms, functional symptoms, and maladaptive character traits.  This is the basis of the entire field of Developmental Psychopathology.

It is also quite often the case that staring down the barrel of a cancer diagnosis activates an enormously complex and difficult cluster of emotions and reawakens the sleeping but unresolved, painful past.

For some cancer patients, psychotherapy can be enormously helpful in resolving the now &quot;awakened giant.&quot;  It&#039;s unlikely that this contributes to longevity, but well-supported psycho-oncological literature notes important gains in quality of life or, in terminal cases, improved ability to face death.  There may also be benefit to new onset psychiatric symptoms or psychologically mediated functional symptoms.


But psychotherapy does Not cure cancer.


Does trauma play any sort of etiologic role in cancer pathogenesis?  Seems unlikely.  I&#039;d be much more likely to buy something like later cancer detection in the traumatized due to generally more self-neglect or self-abuse in those populations.  

At most, I&#039;d say, higher rates of exposure to risk factors in the traumatized (alcohol, tobacco), but trauma is the third variable in this case, not the cause.

Cancer clinic psychiatrists must be driven spare after the hundredth time they get asked about this euroquackery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How aggravating to see pure charlatanism made to look semi-plausible by hijacking and distorting important ideas from psychodynamics.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve known since Bowlby the developmental impact of childhood trauma and its astonishing pathological power in the production of psychiatric symptoms, functional symptoms, and maladaptive character traits.  This is the basis of the entire field of Developmental Psychopathology.</p>
<p>It is also quite often the case that staring down the barrel of a cancer diagnosis activates an enormously complex and difficult cluster of emotions and reawakens the sleeping but unresolved, painful past.</p>
<p>For some cancer patients, psychotherapy can be enormously helpful in resolving the now &#8220;awakened giant.&#8221;  It&#8217;s unlikely that this contributes to longevity, but well-supported psycho-oncological literature notes important gains in quality of life or, in terminal cases, improved ability to face death.  There may also be benefit to new onset psychiatric symptoms or psychologically mediated functional symptoms.</p>
<p>But psychotherapy does Not cure cancer.</p>
<p>Does trauma play any sort of etiologic role in cancer pathogenesis?  Seems unlikely.  I&#8217;d be much more likely to buy something like later cancer detection in the traumatized due to generally more self-neglect or self-abuse in those populations.  </p>
<p>At most, I&#8217;d say, higher rates of exposure to risk factors in the traumatized (alcohol, tobacco), but trauma is the third variable in this case, not the cause.</p>
<p>Cancer clinic psychiatrists must be driven spare after the hundredth time they get asked about this euroquackery.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The study of the methodologies, process, and tools for engineering software is the purview of software engineering research. I agree, however, it’s an unfortunate that neurolinguistic programming also uses the same acronym. Sorry for the digression&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To digress further, I&#039;m very aware of these distinctions :)  However, my own feeling is that most natural language processing practiced these days is not much about the artificial intelligence and more about the &quot;study of methodologies, process, and tools for engineerings software...&quot;.  In this case software for processing text.  Threadjack!!11!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The study of the methodologies, process, and tools for engineering software is the purview of software engineering research. I agree, however, it’s an unfortunate that neurolinguistic programming also uses the same acronym. Sorry for the digression</p></blockquote>
<p>To digress further, I&#8217;m very aware of these distinctions <img src='http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   However, my own feeling is that most natural language processing practiced these days is not much about the artificial intelligence and more about the &#8220;study of methodologies, process, and tools for engineerings software&#8230;&#8221;.  In this case software for processing text.  Threadjack!!11!!! <img src='http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, TimonT. The meta-mediciners are the by far most dangerous group. They leave out the anti-semitism and the solipsism of Hamer, and sell their stuff to medical doctors and naturopaths.

In Norway TV2.no broadcastet about a dozen reports. The journalists had realized, that around Bergen a group of meta-mediciners had gathered - and already caused dead.

The danger of the meta-mediciners is, that they as medical doctors abuse the credibility of the profession, and a normal patient has no idea what drives the guy in the white cloth, who claims to be a medical doctor, to have studied medicine, and claims to do good for his patients. 

NO ONE can see, what ticks inside the heads of the medical doctors. The patients have become prey of a guild of murderers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, TimonT. The meta-mediciners are the by far most dangerous group. They leave out the anti-semitism and the solipsism of Hamer, and sell their stuff to medical doctors and naturopaths.</p>
<p>In Norway TV2.no broadcastet about a dozen reports. The journalists had realized, that around Bergen a group of meta-mediciners had gathered &#8211; and already caused dead.</p>
<p>The danger of the meta-mediciners is, that they as medical doctors abuse the credibility of the profession, and a normal patient has no idea what drives the guy in the white cloth, who claims to be a medical doctor, to have studied medicine, and claims to do good for his patients. </p>
<p>NO ONE can see, what ticks inside the heads of the medical doctors. The patients have become prey of a guild of murderers.</p>
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		<title>By: TimonT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimonT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope no one thinks I quoted the mission statement of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation approvingly. I thought it&#039;s fraudulant nature would be self-evident to everyone.

My hope was that I might stimulate Dr. Gorski to apply some of his trenchant criticism to the group, especially becasue it involves breast cancer, his speciality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope no one thinks I quoted the mission statement of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation approvingly. I thought it&#8217;s fraudulant nature would be self-evident to everyone.</p>
<p>My hope was that I might stimulate Dr. Gorski to apply some of his trenchant criticism to the group, especially becasue it involves breast cancer, his speciality.</p>
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		<title>By: ama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TimonT wrote:

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The mission of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation states: “The Heal Breast Cancer Foundation is a non-profit organization whose mission is to clarify the many breast cancer myths, to raise public awareness, and to raise the funds necessary to research the cause and healing mechanism of cancer based on a biopsychosocial model of integrative medicine.”
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That is a fraud. The mata-mediciners split their activities in two parts:

1. the parts, which costs money, ie.e advertising
2. the part, which brings money in

For the first part, they sought someone they could cheat into advertizing for them: the screen actors. And the meta-mediciners would not have to spend money for that. The screen actors donate their name and photographs, so this push costs nothing, but the innocent viewers will believe that - as the screen actors support it - it must be good.

Where the cash comes in (for &quot;treatment&quot;, and &quot;lectures&quot;), the meta-mediziners have no connection to the outside world, this they to in secrecy.

The important thing about the fraud with the screen actors really is diabolic: as that advertizing is in the USA, all the rest of world admires it and does not question it.
In the USA, on the other hand, the meta-mediziners are not touched, because (nearly 100 percent quote): &quot;we are not interested in that matter, because it is a German doctor&quot; (i.e. Ryke Geerd Hamer). So, the rest of the world does not attack the advertizing in the USA and the journalist blokes in the USA do not fight the meta-mediciners, because they are too damned stupid, that the meta-mediciners are in the USA and that it is Americans who die because of the nurderous fraud committed by the meta-mediciners.

It is outrageous. for about 3 years now the fraud of the meta-mediziners is known, but there still is no action to stop the advertizing fraud with the screen actors. 

We tried to get in contact with joiurnalists in the USA. In vain.
We tried to get in contact with cancer patient organizations in the USA. In vain.
We tried to get in contact with the screen actors. In vain.
We tried to get in contact with the agents of the screen actors.  In vain.
We tried to get in contact with the spokespersons of the screen actors. In vain.
We tried to get in contact with Jewish organizations in the USA. In vain.
We tried to get in contact with Jewish journalists in the USA. In vain.

280 million inhabitants, and they are too stupid to stop a gang of murderes.</description>
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<p>[*QUOTE*]<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
The mission of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation states: “The Heal Breast Cancer Foundation is a non-profit organization whose mission is to clarify the many breast cancer myths, to raise public awareness, and to raise the funds necessary to research the cause and healing mechanism of cancer based on a biopsychosocial model of integrative medicine.”<br />
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<p>That is a fraud. The mata-mediciners split their activities in two parts:</p>
<p>1. the parts, which costs money, ie.e advertising<br />
2. the part, which brings money in</p>
<p>For the first part, they sought someone they could cheat into advertizing for them: the screen actors. And the meta-mediciners would not have to spend money for that. The screen actors donate their name and photographs, so this push costs nothing, but the innocent viewers will believe that &#8211; as the screen actors support it &#8211; it must be good.</p>
<p>Where the cash comes in (for &#8220;treatment&#8221;, and &#8220;lectures&#8221;), the meta-mediziners have no connection to the outside world, this they to in secrecy.</p>
<p>The important thing about the fraud with the screen actors really is diabolic: as that advertizing is in the USA, all the rest of world admires it and does not question it.<br />
In the USA, on the other hand, the meta-mediziners are not touched, because (nearly 100 percent quote): &#8220;we are not interested in that matter, because it is a German doctor&#8221; (i.e. Ryke Geerd Hamer). So, the rest of the world does not attack the advertizing in the USA and the journalist blokes in the USA do not fight the meta-mediciners, because they are too damned stupid, that the meta-mediciners are in the USA and that it is Americans who die because of the nurderous fraud committed by the meta-mediciners.</p>
<p>It is outrageous. for about 3 years now the fraud of the meta-mediziners is known, but there still is no action to stop the advertizing fraud with the screen actors. </p>
<p>We tried to get in contact with joiurnalists in the USA. In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with cancer patient organizations in the USA. In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with the screen actors. In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with the agents of the screen actors.  In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with the spokespersons of the screen actors. In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with Jewish organizations in the USA. In vain.<br />
We tried to get in contact with Jewish journalists in the USA. In vain.</p>
<p>280 million inhabitants, and they are too stupid to stop a gang of murderes.</p>
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		<title>By: beatis</title>
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		<dc:creator>beatis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stories of Marion Piat&#039;s father and Corinne Thos have been translated into English here:
http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/marion-lost-her-father-to-german-new-medicine/
http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/corinne-thos-hamer-victim-dies/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stories of Marion Piat&#8217;s father and Corinne Thos have been translated into English here:<br />
<a href="http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/marion-lost-her-father-to-german-new-medicine/" rel="nofollow">http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/marion-lost-her-father-to-german-new-medicine/</a><br />
<a href="http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/corinne-thos-hamer-victim-dies/" rel="nofollow">http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/corinne-thos-hamer-victim-dies/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DREads</title>
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		<dc:creator>DREads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandos: minor point: Natural Language Processing (NLP) is a respectable variety of artificial intelligence research. For those who don&#039;t know, NLP studies the automatic processing and understanding of human language by machines. NLP researchers are often employed by search companies like Google to process written language in search queries, e-mails, and web documents. The study of the methodologies, process, and tools for engineering software is the purview of software engineering research. I agree, however, it&#039;s an unfortunate that neurolinguistic programming also uses the same acronym. Sorry for the digression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandos: minor point: Natural Language Processing (NLP) is a respectable variety of artificial intelligence research. For those who don&#8217;t know, NLP studies the automatic processing and understanding of human language by machines. NLP researchers are often employed by search companies like Google to process written language in search queries, e-mails, and web documents. The study of the methodologies, process, and tools for engineering software is the purview of software engineering research. I agree, however, it&#8217;s an unfortunate that neurolinguistic programming also uses the same acronym. Sorry for the digression.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annoyingly, NLP is also the acronym of a perfectly respectable variety of software engineering research: Natural Language Processing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annoyingly, NLP is also the acronym of a perfectly respectable variety of software engineering research: Natural Language Processing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sastra</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44656</link>
		<dc:creator>Sastra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve speculated multiple times about why there is this tendency to “blame the victim” in “alt-med&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It may not be &quot;blame the victim,&quot; so much as &quot;blame the bully.&quot; Someone was mean to you? Unfair? Cruel? Then they did this to you. They gave you a headache, or fibromyalgia, or cancer. It&#039;s their fault. Bad thoughts are literally &lt;i&gt;toxic.&lt;/i&gt; The Evil Eye. Or, perhaps, the Culture of Therapy, where we are all walking wounded, psychologically and, in this version, literally.

Perhaps these alt med practitioners and patients are willing to accept the idea that their own bad feelings are making them sick because it actually ends up tracking back to place them in the victim &lt;i&gt;role&lt;/i&gt;.  

Could people who easily buy into the ideology of New German Medicine have been bullied as children -- either by adults, or other children?  Is this something that still bothers them? My own experience with altie friends seems to support this hypothesis. It would be interesting to test it more rigorously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve speculated multiple times about why there is this tendency to “blame the victim” in “alt-med&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>It may not be &#8220;blame the victim,&#8221; so much as &#8220;blame the bully.&#8221; Someone was mean to you? Unfair? Cruel? Then they did this to you. They gave you a headache, or fibromyalgia, or cancer. It&#8217;s their fault. Bad thoughts are literally <i>toxic.</i> The Evil Eye. Or, perhaps, the Culture of Therapy, where we are all walking wounded, psychologically and, in this version, literally.</p>
<p>Perhaps these alt med practitioners and patients are willing to accept the idea that their own bad feelings are making them sick because it actually ends up tracking back to place them in the victim <i>role</i>.  </p>
<p>Could people who easily buy into the ideology of New German Medicine have been bullied as children &#8212; either by adults, or other children?  Is this something that still bothers them? My own experience with altie friends seems to support this hypothesis. It would be interesting to test it more rigorously.</p>
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		<title>By: epersonae</title>
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		<dc:creator>epersonae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of my 9th grade English teacher, who was firmly convinced that if you were out sick than it was your fault for wrong thinking of one sort or another. I remember being furious with her for getting a lecture on coming back to class after a particularly nasty cold. It&#039;s an insidious viewpoint on human health; if it was upsetting as a teenager with a cold, I can imagine how distressing it&#039;d be to encounter during a really serious illness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of my 9th grade English teacher, who was firmly convinced that if you were out sick than it was your fault for wrong thinking of one sort or another. I remember being furious with her for getting a lecture on coming back to class after a particularly nasty cold. It&#8217;s an insidious viewpoint on human health; if it was upsetting as a teenager with a cold, I can imagine how distressing it&#8217;d be to encounter during a really serious illness!</p>
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		<title>By: TimonT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimonT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the post by &quot;ama&quot;, there is one page that has a fair amount of English: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deathsect.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.deathsect.com&lt;/a&gt;

Among other things &quot;ama&quot; expresses concern about the:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healbreastcancer.org/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heal Breast Cancer Foundation&lt;/a&gt;

which managed to recruit a number of celebrities to promote it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healbreastcancer.org/awards_overview.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heal Breast Cancer Awards &amp; Gala&lt;/a&gt; in 2007.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healbreastcancer.org/mission.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mission&lt;/a&gt; of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation states: &quot;The Heal Breast Cancer Foundation is a non-profit organization whose mission is to clarify the many breast cancer myths, to raise public awareness, and to raise the funds necessary to research the cause and healing mechanism of cancer based on a biopsychosocial model of integrative medicine.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the post by &#8220;ama&#8221;, there is one page that has a fair amount of English: <a href="http://www.deathsect.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.deathsect.com</a></p>
<p>Among other things &#8220;ama&#8221; expresses concern about the:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.healbreastcancer.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">Heal Breast Cancer Foundation</a></p>
<p>which managed to recruit a number of celebrities to promote it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.healbreastcancer.org/awards_overview.php" rel="nofollow">Heal Breast Cancer Awards &amp; Gala</a> in 2007.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.healbreastcancer.org/mission.php" rel="nofollow">mission</a> of the Heal Breast Cancer Foundation states: &#8220;The Heal Breast Cancer Foundation is a non-profit organization whose mission is to clarify the many breast cancer myths, to raise public awareness, and to raise the funds necessary to research the cause and healing mechanism of cancer based on a biopsychosocial model of integrative medicine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DevoutCatalyst</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A variety of alt-med sources will suggest that oncology hasn&#039;t advanced in any meaningful way over the years. It&#039;s the oncologist-as-clueless-butcher meme.

Blame the victim? That&#039;s part of the therapy! Alt-med does it all the time. Become a glowing acolyte of my modality, or shut-up. It&#039;s textbook for how to treat the person, not the symptom. 

Yeah, I wonder what Chopra would say about this? What color ribbon is he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A variety of alt-med sources will suggest that oncology hasn&#8217;t advanced in any meaningful way over the years. It&#8217;s the oncologist-as-clueless-butcher meme.</p>
<p>Blame the victim? That&#8217;s part of the therapy! Alt-med does it all the time. Become a glowing acolyte of my modality, or shut-up. It&#8217;s textbook for how to treat the person, not the symptom. </p>
<p>Yeah, I wonder what Chopra would say about this? What color ribbon is he?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Xavier</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44624</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I must spam you with another esowatch-link:
http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Testimonies_of_former_associates_of_Hamer

This is a translation of an Interview with three former employees of Hamer. It is frequently claimed that Hamer never had a chance to test his ideas. These interviews prove this wrong. Hamer had his own &#039;hospital&#039; and was in full control as to how to treat his patients- with disastrous results. Read for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I must spam you with another esowatch-link:<br />
<a href="http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Testimonies_of_former_associates_of_Hamer" rel="nofollow">http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Testimonies_of_former_associates_of_Hamer</a></p>
<p>This is a translation of an Interview with three former employees of Hamer. It is frequently claimed that Hamer never had a chance to test his ideas. These interviews prove this wrong. Hamer had his own &#8216;hospital&#8217; and was in full control as to how to treat his patients- with disastrous results. Read for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: bluedevilRA</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44621</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;where patients are often told to ignore their cancer, or stop medical treatment altogether&quot;

Deepak Chopra must love this! Disease is all a state of mind. My favorite quote is when he says, &quot;if you turn your back to the moon, then it does not exist.&quot; If only I could turn my back to Deepak Chopra and that would make him disappear.

If we ignore heart disease, cancer, strokes, renal disease, liver failure, infectious disease and trauma, then they would cease to exist. How simple. We can just will away the leading causes of death. Why did nobody think of this before? Hell, why don&#039;t we just will away death altogether? I&#039;ve always thought of death as a psychological conflict...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;where patients are often told to ignore their cancer, or stop medical treatment altogether&#8221;</p>
<p>Deepak Chopra must love this! Disease is all a state of mind. My favorite quote is when he says, &#8220;if you turn your back to the moon, then it does not exist.&#8221; If only I could turn my back to Deepak Chopra and that would make him disappear.</p>
<p>If we ignore heart disease, cancer, strokes, renal disease, liver failure, infectious disease and trauma, then they would cease to exist. How simple. We can just will away the leading causes of death. Why did nobody think of this before? Hell, why don&#8217;t we just will away death altogether? I&#8217;ve always thought of death as a psychological conflict&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44620</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, although I used to speak pretty good French back when I was in college, my French is now so rusty that it&#039;s painfully slow trying to read those blogs and websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, although I used to speak pretty good French back when I was in college, my French is now so rusty that it&#8217;s painfully slow trying to read those blogs and websites.</p>
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		<title>By: ama</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44618</link>
		<dc:creator>ama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabbah and his murder gang is - somehow - limited by the language barrier, and so kills in Begelgium, France, the Netherlands, and in Canada. 

But there is an other INTERNATIONAL group: the &quot;meta-mediciners&quot;. They have bases in Germany, Norway, United Kingdom, and the USA!

These frauds even advertise with 20 world-famous screen actors like Geena Davis, Ben Kingsley, Tommy Lee Jones, Ben Stiller, etc... 

Since we found this in 2007, we try to get this in the American media. No avail... 

Here is the letter sent to the Screen Actors Guild: http://www.deathsect.com
,describing the whole affair.

The screen actors enjoy themselves at Oscar feasts, but to show responsibility for what they REALLY do: zero!


Here is more about the death sect: 
http://seulomonde.canalblog.com/

(Corinne Thos died in 2005. Her brother maintains that web-log.)

Au Canada, c est Marion Piat  qui  crie sa colère à travers un blog, http://medecinedangereuse.unblog.fr/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabbah and his murder gang is &#8211; somehow &#8211; limited by the language barrier, and so kills in Begelgium, France, the Netherlands, and in Canada. </p>
<p>But there is an other INTERNATIONAL group: the &#8220;meta-mediciners&#8221;. They have bases in Germany, Norway, United Kingdom, and the USA!</p>
<p>These frauds even advertise with 20 world-famous screen actors like Geena Davis, Ben Kingsley, Tommy Lee Jones, Ben Stiller, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>Since we found this in 2007, we try to get this in the American media. No avail&#8230; </p>
<p>Here is the letter sent to the Screen Actors Guild: <a href="http://www.deathsect.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.deathsect.com</a><br />
,describing the whole affair.</p>
<p>The screen actors enjoy themselves at Oscar feasts, but to show responsibility for what they REALLY do: zero!</p>
<p>Here is more about the death sect:<br />
<a href="http://seulomonde.canalblog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://seulomonde.canalblog.com/</a></p>
<p>(Corinne Thos died in 2005. Her brother maintains that web-log.)</p>
<p>Au Canada, c est Marion Piat  qui  crie sa colère à travers un blog, <a href="http://medecinedangereuse.unblog.fr/" rel="nofollow">http://medecinedangereuse.unblog.fr/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Versus</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44615</link>
		<dc:creator>Versus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;dis-ease&quot; was used by Daniel David Palmer, who &quot;discovered&quot; chiropractic in 1895.  Like the rest of his &quot;discovery,&quot; &quot;dis-ease&quot; may have been borrowed from some other pre-scientific ideas popular at the time.  In fact, Total Biology of Living Beings has some very chiropractic-sounding concepts: the body&#039;s being out of sorts due to physical and mental stressors which result in &quot;subluxations&quot; blocking &quot;nerve energy&quot; from the brain flowing to the organs, thereby causing &quot;dis-ease.&quot;  Remove the subluxations, restore nerve flow from the brain, problem solved.  However, the brain&#039;s ordering cells to mutate sounds like it has a more modern inspiration -- science fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;dis-ease&#8221; was used by Daniel David Palmer, who &#8220;discovered&#8221; chiropractic in 1895.  Like the rest of his &#8220;discovery,&#8221; &#8220;dis-ease&#8221; may have been borrowed from some other pre-scientific ideas popular at the time.  In fact, Total Biology of Living Beings has some very chiropractic-sounding concepts: the body&#8217;s being out of sorts due to physical and mental stressors which result in &#8220;subluxations&#8221; blocking &#8220;nerve energy&#8221; from the brain flowing to the organs, thereby causing &#8220;dis-ease.&#8221;  Remove the subluxations, restore nerve flow from the brain, problem solved.  However, the brain&#8217;s ordering cells to mutate sounds like it has a more modern inspiration &#8212; science fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: mikerattlesnake</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44614</link>
		<dc:creator>mikerattlesnake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My uncle is a doctor in the US (though close to canada) who in recent years has denounced western medicine (at christmas he said it had &quot;achieved nothing&quot;) and has started his own private practice where he preaches this stuff. He has a real messiah complex and sees himself as a &quot;healer&quot;, though I think he still practices conventional medicine a few days a week because quackery doesn&#039;t quite pay the bills in a small town in the middle of nowhere. 

When my mom had breast cancer a while back, he suggested that it came from an unresolved conflict with her mother. I think she politely told him he was full of shit and continued her conventional treatments. My mom is a real hippy (with an oddly punk rock streak) who is into herbs, used to take homeopathic remedies, doesn&#039;t quite buy evolution, believes in ghosts, considers herself very spiritual, etc. so I was glad to see how quickly she dismissed quack cures when she had cancer (another friend wanted to treat her with reiki, I think she obliged just to make the friend feel good). 

As far as why this happens, I think there&#039;s just some people who can&#039;t handle medicine that works in percentages and increments; they see a certain amount of death and pain and just snap. They no longer want to be a facilitator or a helper doing the best they can with what they have, they want to be a Healer who can defeat any disease. When their brain breaks in that fundamental way, a certain acceptable cognitive dissonance arrises and they can no longer be convinced with evidence. My uncle was a good doctor (and probably still is when he&#039;s working at the clinic, though he might be preaching this stuff there now too) who spent his life practicing in extremely poor communities and helped build and maintain clinics in poor villages in africa. It makes me sad to see him buy into this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle is a doctor in the US (though close to canada) who in recent years has denounced western medicine (at christmas he said it had &#8220;achieved nothing&#8221;) and has started his own private practice where he preaches this stuff. He has a real messiah complex and sees himself as a &#8220;healer&#8221;, though I think he still practices conventional medicine a few days a week because quackery doesn&#8217;t quite pay the bills in a small town in the middle of nowhere. </p>
<p>When my mom had breast cancer a while back, he suggested that it came from an unresolved conflict with her mother. I think she politely told him he was full of shit and continued her conventional treatments. My mom is a real hippy (with an oddly punk rock streak) who is into herbs, used to take homeopathic remedies, doesn&#8217;t quite buy evolution, believes in ghosts, considers herself very spiritual, etc. so I was glad to see how quickly she dismissed quack cures when she had cancer (another friend wanted to treat her with reiki, I think she obliged just to make the friend feel good). </p>
<p>As far as why this happens, I think there&#8217;s just some people who can&#8217;t handle medicine that works in percentages and increments; they see a certain amount of death and pain and just snap. They no longer want to be a facilitator or a helper doing the best they can with what they have, they want to be a Healer who can defeat any disease. When their brain breaks in that fundamental way, a certain acceptable cognitive dissonance arrises and they can no longer be convinced with evidence. My uncle was a good doctor (and probably still is when he&#8217;s working at the clinic, though he might be preaching this stuff there now too) who spent his life practicing in extremely poor communities and helped build and maintain clinics in poor villages in africa. It makes me sad to see him buy into this.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4125&#038;cpage=1#comment-44610</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And people say &quot;what&#039;s the harm?&quot;

Some years ago, a work mate developed colon cancer. He was only 28. Unfortunately, it had already metastasised. He had palliative surgery and chemotherapy to prolong his life and was ready to set off on a round Australia holiday with his new wife. Unfortunately, a week before leaving, a friend told him about shark cartilege injections. He felt he could not bypass this potential cure and decided to delay his trip to have the treatment. He had weekly injections for three months at enormous cost and only gave up when he discovered that the altmed practitioner was charging him a 100% markup on the price of the injection! Unfortuately, after only a week into his holiday, he had to return home because of deteriorating health and he died shortly thereafter.

Whenever someone says, &quot;what&#039;s the harm?&quot;, I think of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And people say &#8220;what&#8217;s the harm?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some years ago, a work mate developed colon cancer. He was only 28. Unfortunately, it had already metastasised. He had palliative surgery and chemotherapy to prolong his life and was ready to set off on a round Australia holiday with his new wife. Unfortunately, a week before leaving, a friend told him about shark cartilege injections. He felt he could not bypass this potential cure and decided to delay his trip to have the treatment. He had weekly injections for three months at enormous cost and only gave up when he discovered that the altmed practitioner was charging him a 100% markup on the price of the injection! Unfortuately, after only a week into his holiday, he had to return home because of deteriorating health and he died shortly thereafter.</p>
<p>Whenever someone says, &#8220;what&#8217;s the harm?&#8221;, I think of him.</p>
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