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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; Cranks, quacks, and peer review</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-21591</link>
		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; Cranks, quacks, and peer review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Surgeons, as Dr. Miller has, does not count as a peer-reviewed journal, for reasons I have discussed extensively before.) In any case, here Dr. Miller describes the peer review system as he thinks it stands: The Center [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Surgeons, as Dr. Miller has, does not count as a peer-reviewed journal, for reasons I have discussed extensively before.) In any case, here Dr. Miller describes the peer review system as he thinks it stands: The Center [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Better Health &#187; The Oprah-fication Of Medicine</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-20563</link>
		<dc:creator>Better Health &#187; The Oprah-fication Of Medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so-called “bioidentical hormones,” which is the sort of nonsense quack-friendly journals like JPANDS publish. I’ve also realized that it is the height of stupidity for a woman who has survived [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so-called “bioidentical hormones,” which is the sort of nonsense quack-friendly journals like JPANDS publish. I’ve also realized that it is the height of stupidity for a woman who has survived [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; The Oprah-fication of medicine</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-20179</link>
		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; The Oprah-fication of medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;bioidentical hormones,&#8221; which is the sort of nonsense quack-friendly journals like JPANDS publish. I&#8217;ve also realized that it is the height of stupidity for a woman who has survived [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;bioidentical hormones,&#8221; which is the sort of nonsense quack-friendly journals like JPANDS publish. I&#8217;ve also realized that it is the height of stupidity for a woman who has survived [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; Chemical castration for autism: After three years, the mainstream media finally notices</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-19889</link>
		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; Chemical castration for autism: After three years, the mainstream media finally notices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hard to tell how they made any conclusions. (Not surprisingly, this article was published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, a really crappy journal that&#8217;s chock full of antivaccination rhetoric, antifluoridation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hard to tell how they made any conclusions. (Not surprisingly, this article was published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, a really crappy journal that&#8217;s chock full of antivaccination rhetoric, antifluoridation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends, part II: Generation Rescue, the anti-vaccine propaganda machine, and &#8220;Fourteen Studies&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-17362</link>
		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends, part II: Generation Rescue, the anti-vaccine propaganda machine, and &#8220;Fourteen Studies&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] data, or the crank journal, the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPANDS), whose penchant for antivaccine pseudoscience I&#8217;ve discussed in depth before on this very blog). Heavy hitters in the world of vaccine or autism science, these are not. (Hint: If you want to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] data, or the crank journal, the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPANDS), whose penchant for antivaccine pseudoscience I&#8217;ve discussed in depth before on this very blog). Heavy hitters in the world of vaccine or autism science, these are not. (Hint: If you want to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-11825</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cutiepie, your story makes us glad.  Perhaps you could repeat it here:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=328

May you continue to enjoy many many gifts of days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cutiepie, your story makes us glad.  Perhaps you could repeat it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=328" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=328</a></p>
<p>May you continue to enjoy many many gifts of days.</p>
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		<title>By: cutiepie</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-11823</link>
		<dc:creator>cutiepie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Christine personally.  I knew EJ.  I tested poz in Jan 96.  I was scared.  I got information that offered me an alternative that was much more attractive than the side effects I feared.  In 2006 I went to the hospital weighing 140 pounds - I am 5&#039;11&quot; - I was skeletal.  I was unable to breathe.  I had 18 T-Cells.  I had a pneumonia they couldn&#039;t technically call pcp and argued that point with the Doctors. I begrudgingly &#039;submitted&#039; to using antibiotics and the steroid that cleared my lungs and allowed me to live.  I argued with Doctors for 3 months.  I interviewed people who&#039;d started meds.  Eventually I made the significant decision to take the HAART treatment.  Today I weigh 185 pounds, I have 431 T-cells and I experience each day as a gift.  Later this week I will go to Christines memorial - as I attended EJs.  MEDS SAVED MY LIFE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Christine personally.  I knew EJ.  I tested poz in Jan 96.  I was scared.  I got information that offered me an alternative that was much more attractive than the side effects I feared.  In 2006 I went to the hospital weighing 140 pounds &#8211; I am 5&#8242;11&#8243; &#8211; I was skeletal.  I was unable to breathe.  I had 18 T-Cells.  I had a pneumonia they couldn&#8217;t technically call pcp and argued that point with the Doctors. I begrudgingly &#8217;submitted&#8217; to using antibiotics and the steroid that cleared my lungs and allowed me to live.  I argued with Doctors for 3 months.  I interviewed people who&#8217;d started meds.  Eventually I made the significant decision to take the HAART treatment.  Today I weigh 185 pounds, I have 431 T-cells and I experience each day as a gift.  Later this week I will go to Christines memorial &#8211; as I attended EJs.  MEDS SAVED MY LIFE!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-6541</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strong work David.  I think we can all cite this now when we want to write off JPANDS as the crankery that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strong work David.  I think we can all cite this now when we want to write off JPANDS as the crankery that it is.</p>
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		<title>By: sem1989</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4970</link>
		<dc:creator>sem1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link between thimerosal and autism is so frail that it is ludicrous and, in my opinion, provides some comic relief via the dogmatic, blindly emotional tirades that supporters of this theory give. If thimerosal is to blame for the explosion of diagnoses of autism, and it was phased out of production in 2001, why does the rate of autism diagnoses continue to rise?

I actually find it terribly sad how some parents of a child diagnosed with autism often openly express, sometimes even with wide exposure on TV, their displeasure and disappointment in their child due to their condition. 

Let&#039;s face it, parents only want to sue pharmaceutical companies that used to produce thimerosal containing vaccines to reprimand the high cost of care for the child, and perhaps in some cases, their displeasure that their child has turned out the way it has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link between thimerosal and autism is so frail that it is ludicrous and, in my opinion, provides some comic relief via the dogmatic, blindly emotional tirades that supporters of this theory give. If thimerosal is to blame for the explosion of diagnoses of autism, and it was phased out of production in 2001, why does the rate of autism diagnoses continue to rise?</p>
<p>I actually find it terribly sad how some parents of a child diagnosed with autism often openly express, sometimes even with wide exposure on TV, their displeasure and disappointment in their child due to their condition. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, parents only want to sue pharmaceutical companies that used to produce thimerosal containing vaccines to reprimand the high cost of care for the child, and perhaps in some cases, their displeasure that their child has turned out the way it has.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigirl</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4787</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More from the group. It seems they have filed a lot of legal briefs and lawsuits.

Amicus Brief for gun ownership rights
http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/heller-02-07-08.pdf

I see faria is his own publisher.
http://www.haciendapub.com/

Rational Wiki has a lot of informaton on the group.
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

I had not heard of Rational Wiki. I shall have to look at more of their work. It appears to be a response to Conservapedia. 
http://www.asd.org/99pics.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from the group. It seems they have filed a lot of legal briefs and lawsuits.</p>
<p>Amicus Brief for gun ownership rights<br />
<a href="http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/heller-02-07-08.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/heller-02-07-08.pdf</a></p>
<p>I see faria is his own publisher.<br />
<a href="http://www.haciendapub.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.haciendapub.com/</a></p>
<p>Rational Wiki has a lot of informaton on the group.<br />
<a href="http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons" rel="nofollow">http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons</a></p>
<p>I had not heard of Rational Wiki. I shall have to look at more of their work. It appears to be a response to Conservapedia.<br />
<a href="http://www.asd.org/99pics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asd.org/99pics.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve come across that group before. 

It is a typical fake front which promotes their political causes by laundering the source of the message in a facade of feigned legitimacy. 

Here&#039;s what SourceWatch reveals about their political leanings:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

Readers here might also be interested in the following blog discussion of the same group from Neurodiversity Weblog:

http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Previous perusals of JPandS tables of contents left me with the general impression that its sponsors tended toward the conservative end of the political spectrum. I therefore decided to make a comprehensive survey of the website of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, to get a sense of the convictions driving its editorial policies.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

And this blog entry from ConWebWatch (disclosure: it is a liberal political blog that reports on the shenanigans from the right) reveals even more:

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2005/medicine.html

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The report suggested several Draconian remedies for this alleged problem, none of which have a thing to do with medicine, as one might expect from a journal that has &quot;physicians and surgeons&quot; in its name. Among them: &quot;Closing America&#039;s borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops&quot; and &quot;Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.&quot;

&lt;I&gt;It makes one wonder what kind of medical journal this is. The answer to that appears to be: Not much of one.

&lt;I&gt;The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons seems to be little more than a conservative publication gussied up with a medical spin. A look at the references in the illegal-alien report, written by Madeleine Pelner Cosman -- a &quot;medical lawyer&quot; whose previous claim to fame appears to be a book on medieval cooking but who has also written an article for a group called Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership -- is chock full of hardline conservative cites, including books by Michelle Malkin and former WND writer (and Slantie winner) Jon Dougherty and articles by Phyllis Schlafly and Tom DeWeese.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

The same group also seems to be responsible for another facade:

Doctors for Disaster Preparedness
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doctors_for_Disaster_Preparedness

&lt;I&gt;&quot;The website for the group, Doctors for Disaster Preparedness (DDP), is registered to Jeremy Snavely of AAPS. [7] DDP and AAPS also share the same mailing address, in Tucson, Arizona. [8] [9]&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Is Jeremy Snavely the same person as John Hanni? The email address for Snavely is jhanni@.
http://www.who.is/whois-org/ip-address/asd.org/

Hanni and/or Snavely is/are tied to The American Society of Dermatology which has a similar agenda to the other 2 groups:
http://www.asd.org/government.html

&lt;i&gt;&quot;At its February Board Meeting in New Orleans, the ASD Board approved moving the Society&#039;s offices to Peoria, Illinois and named M. John Hanni, Jr., CAE interim Executive Director. In making the move, the Board expressed its appreciation to Christopher W. Hayen for his services as Executive Director during the Society&#039;s formative years....

&lt;I&gt;...Before coming to Peoria, Hanni served as Executive Vice President of the Dade County (Miami, Florida) Medical Association and Executive Director of Medicine of Cleveland. He is a certified Association of Medical Society Executives and a fellow of the Royal Society of Medicine.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This Dermatology group doesn&#039;t appear to have been active since  1999. But they have a picture of Mr Snavely with a caption that says he is a &quot;computer consultant with AAPS&quot;. There are no pictures of Mr Hanni.

So it is interesting that the apparent source of the webpage for the Dermatology group has the three domains registered, one for the derm group, the disaster group and the AAPS. Is Snavely using 2 names or just using Hanni&#039;s email address? 

You can learn a lot more from following the pictures. In the &quot;1997 annual meeting&quot; of the Dermatology group they are selling books with the assistance of the editor of &quot;The Sentinel&quot; which is the AAPS &quot;oficial journal&quot;
http://www.asd.org/97annpics.html 
http://www.haciendapub.com/medsent.html

That editor is one, Miguel A Faria, Jr, MD who apparently is a Cuban refugee and retired neurosurgeon with a very strong political agenda.
http://www.haciendapub.com/bio.html
http://www.haciendapub.com/writings.html

I wonder what one would find looking at the other speakers of the dermatology group? The topics appear to be more politcal than clinical.
http://www.asd.org/99pics.html


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come across that group before. </p>
<p>It is a typical fake front which promotes their political causes by laundering the source of the message in a facade of feigned legitimacy. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what SourceWatch reveals about their political leanings:<br />
<a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons</a></p>
<p>Readers here might also be interested in the following blog discussion of the same group from Neurodiversity Weblog:</p>
<p><a href="http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/" rel="nofollow">http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Previous perusals of JPandS tables of contents left me with the general impression that its sponsors tended toward the conservative end of the political spectrum. I therefore decided to make a comprehensive survey of the website of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, to get a sense of the convictions driving its editorial policies.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And this blog entry from ConWebWatch (disclosure: it is a liberal political blog that reports on the shenanigans from the right) reveals even more:</p>
<p><a href="http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2005/medicine.html" rel="nofollow">http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2005/medicine.html</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;The report suggested several Draconian remedies for this alleged problem, none of which have a thing to do with medicine, as one might expect from a journal that has &#8220;physicians and surgeons&#8221; in its name. Among them: &#8220;Closing America&#8217;s borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops&#8221; and &#8220;Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime.&#8221;</p>
<p></i><i>It makes one wonder what kind of medical journal this is. The answer to that appears to be: Not much of one.</p>
<p></i><i>The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons seems to be little more than a conservative publication gussied up with a medical spin. A look at the references in the illegal-alien report, written by Madeleine Pelner Cosman &#8212; a &#8220;medical lawyer&#8221; whose previous claim to fame appears to be a book on medieval cooking but who has also written an article for a group called Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership &#8212; is chock full of hardline conservative cites, including books by Michelle Malkin and former WND writer (and Slantie winner) Jon Dougherty and articles by Phyllis Schlafly and Tom DeWeese.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The same group also seems to be responsible for another facade:</p>
<p>Doctors for Disaster Preparedness<br />
<a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doctors_for_Disaster_Preparedness" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doctors_for_Disaster_Preparedness</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;The website for the group, Doctors for Disaster Preparedness (DDP), is registered to Jeremy Snavely of AAPS. [7] DDP and AAPS also share the same mailing address, in Tucson, Arizona. [8] [9]&#8220;</i></p>
<p>Is Jeremy Snavely the same person as John Hanni? The email address for Snavely is jhanni@.<br />
<a href="http://www.who.is/whois-org/ip-address/asd.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.is/whois-org/ip-address/asd.org/</a></p>
<p>Hanni and/or Snavely is/are tied to The American Society of Dermatology which has a similar agenda to the other 2 groups:<br />
<a href="http://www.asd.org/government.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asd.org/government.html</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;At its February Board Meeting in New Orleans, the ASD Board approved moving the Society&#8217;s offices to Peoria, Illinois and named M. John Hanni, Jr., CAE interim Executive Director. In making the move, the Board expressed its appreciation to Christopher W. Hayen for his services as Executive Director during the Society&#8217;s formative years&#8230;.</p>
<p></i><i>&#8230;Before coming to Peoria, Hanni served as Executive Vice President of the Dade County (Miami, Florida) Medical Association and Executive Director of Medicine of Cleveland. He is a certified Association of Medical Society Executives and a fellow of the Royal Society of Medicine.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This Dermatology group doesn&#8217;t appear to have been active since  1999. But they have a picture of Mr Snavely with a caption that says he is a &#8220;computer consultant with AAPS&#8221;. There are no pictures of Mr Hanni.</p>
<p>So it is interesting that the apparent source of the webpage for the Dermatology group has the three domains registered, one for the derm group, the disaster group and the AAPS. Is Snavely using 2 names or just using Hanni&#8217;s email address? </p>
<p>You can learn a lot more from following the pictures. In the &#8220;1997 annual meeting&#8221; of the Dermatology group they are selling books with the assistance of the editor of &#8220;The Sentinel&#8221; which is the AAPS &#8220;oficial journal&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.asd.org/97annpics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asd.org/97annpics.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.haciendapub.com/medsent.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haciendapub.com/medsent.html</a></p>
<p>That editor is one, Miguel A Faria, Jr, MD who apparently is a Cuban refugee and retired neurosurgeon with a very strong political agenda.<br />
<a href="http://www.haciendapub.com/bio.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haciendapub.com/bio.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.haciendapub.com/writings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haciendapub.com/writings.html</a></p>
<p>I wonder what one would find looking at the other speakers of the dermatology group? The topics appear to be more politcal than clinical.<br />
<a href="http://www.asd.org/99pics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asd.org/99pics.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This quote from that article may well be the dumbest I&#039;ve ever seen in JPANDS:

&lt;blockquote&gt;While there may be risks associated with certain forms of asbestos, these are far less than the risks of many substances that are still widely used or ingested despite lack of any compensatory benefits, such as cigarettes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The mind boggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote from that article may well be the dumbest I&#8217;ve ever seen in JPANDS:</p>
<blockquote><p>While there may be risks associated with certain forms of asbestos, these are far less than the risks of many substances that are still widely used or ingested despite lack of any compensatory benefits, such as cigarettes.</p></blockquote>
<p>The mind boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently government regulation of the use of asbestos is responsible for the collapse of the world trade center!

http://www.jpands.org/vol8no3/schlafly.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently government regulation of the use of asbestos is responsible for the collapse of the world trade center!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpands.org/vol8no3/schlafly.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpands.org/vol8no3/schlafly.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLC</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator>DLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Gorski: an excellent deconstruction of AAPS and JPANDS.
They deserve to be picked apart and you did a good job of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Gorski: an excellent deconstruction of AAPS and JPANDS.<br />
They deserve to be picked apart and you did a good job of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4711</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope there are no AAPS members in your management team.  For multiple reasons.

JPANDS is suspect in my just as one of the safe-harbors for the Geiers.   However, I recall hearing Dr. Brent in the Autism Omnibus make some comments about the quality of JPANDS.  I seem to recall him stating that this was the only journal he had come across that wasn&#039;t listed in a major index (I forget the name of the index).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope there are no AAPS members in your management team.  For multiple reasons.</p>
<p>JPANDS is suspect in my just as one of the safe-harbors for the Geiers.   However, I recall hearing Dr. Brent in the Autism Omnibus make some comments about the quality of JPANDS.  I seem to recall him stating that this was the only journal he had come across that wasn&#8217;t listed in a major index (I forget the name of the index).</p>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4696</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I re-read the referenced quote a couple of times and saw no reference to race. In fact it almost monotonously limited itself to “illegal immigrants” (a term which I find oxymoronic - you can be an immigrant, or you can be here illegally, but not both) without specifying race. The language may be inflammatory but I honestly can’t see it as racist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do. It&#039;s totally racist, and reading the whole thing shows it to be pretty vile.

The article is completely of a piece with portrayals of immigrants of other races dating back to time immemorial as stupid carriers of disease and pestilence here to contaminate the purity of this nation or as an &quot;invasion&quot; that&#039;s threatening to destroy us. See other examples:

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/05/immigrant-plague.html
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/02/immigration-against-right.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I re-read the referenced quote a couple of times and saw no reference to race. In fact it almost monotonously limited itself to “illegal immigrants” (a term which I find oxymoronic &#8211; you can be an immigrant, or you can be here illegally, but not both) without specifying race. The language may be inflammatory but I honestly can’t see it as racist.</p></blockquote>
<p>I do. It&#8217;s totally racist, and reading the whole thing shows it to be pretty vile.</p>
<p>The article is completely of a piece with portrayals of immigrants of other races dating back to time immemorial as stupid carriers of disease and pestilence here to contaminate the purity of this nation or as an &#8220;invasion&#8221; that&#8217;s threatening to destroy us. See other examples:</p>
<p><a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/05/immigrant-plague.html" rel="nofollow">http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/05/immigrant-plague.html</a><br />
<a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/02/immigration-against-right.html" rel="nofollow">http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/02/immigration-against-right.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4693</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sheer arrogance implicit in the passage Siebel quotes about evidence-based standards of care &quot;threatening the autonomy of physicians&quot; is staggering (and it&#039;s no better looked at in context).

And isn&#039;t arrogance one of the things that the antivaxxers (among others) routinely accuse the medical profession of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sheer arrogance implicit in the passage Siebel quotes about evidence-based standards of care &#8220;threatening the autonomy of physicians&#8221; is staggering (and it&#8217;s no better looked at in context).</p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t arrogance one of the things that the antivaxxers (among others) routinely accuse the medical profession of?</p>
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		<title>By: clgood</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4688</link>
		<dc:creator>clgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make an excellent case that JPANDS publishes pseudoscience and is politically-motivated. I&#039;d of a libertarian/conservative bent, so I&#039;m sympathetic to some of their inclinations. But, as it is said, everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but nobody is entitled to their own facts. We certainly do agree that any time science is called upon to inform policy the science should be solid. And here it is far from solid.

I must quibble a bit with one thing, though:

&quot;Regardless of your position on immigration, doesn’t the sheer racism apparent in the above passages sicken you?&quot;

I re-read the referenced quote a couple of times and saw no reference to race. In fact it almost monotonously limited itself to &quot;illegal immigrants&quot; (a term which I find oxymoronic - you can be an immigrant, or you can be here illegally, but not both) without specifying race. The language may be inflammatory but I honestly can&#039;t see it as racist.

In any case, I&#039;ll be duly suspicious of any &quot;study&quot; cited in JPANDS. That is, I gather, your main intent. Thank you for taking the time to assemble this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make an excellent case that JPANDS publishes pseudoscience and is politically-motivated. I&#8217;d of a libertarian/conservative bent, so I&#8217;m sympathetic to some of their inclinations. But, as it is said, everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but nobody is entitled to their own facts. We certainly do agree that any time science is called upon to inform policy the science should be solid. And here it is far from solid.</p>
<p>I must quibble a bit with one thing, though:</p>
<p>&#8220;Regardless of your position on immigration, doesn’t the sheer racism apparent in the above passages sicken you?&#8221;</p>
<p>I re-read the referenced quote a couple of times and saw no reference to race. In fact it almost monotonously limited itself to &#8220;illegal immigrants&#8221; (a term which I find oxymoronic &#8211; you can be an immigrant, or you can be here illegally, but not both) without specifying race. The language may be inflammatory but I honestly can&#8217;t see it as racist.</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;ll be duly suspicious of any &#8220;study&#8221; cited in JPANDS. That is, I gather, your main intent. Thank you for taking the time to assemble this article.</p>
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		<title>By: mmarsh</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4685</link>
		<dc:creator>mmarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit I was confused for a bit: Most of the AAPS&#039;s favored positions seem designed to kill the poor, but then why oppose abortion?  Then it hit me: Without a medical safety net, it&#039;s a lot more likely that poor women will die during childbirth, along with their babies.

Maybe I&#039;m being a bit too cynical, but my hypothesis fits the data at least as well as in the papers JPANDS seems happy to publish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit I was confused for a bit: Most of the AAPS&#8217;s favored positions seem designed to kill the poor, but then why oppose abortion?  Then it hit me: Without a medical safety net, it&#8217;s a lot more likely that poor women will die during childbirth, along with their babies.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m being a bit too cynical, but my hypothesis fits the data at least as well as in the papers JPANDS seems happy to publish.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gorski</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=99&#038;cpage=1#comment-4676</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, just like in the title. ;-)

D&#039;oh!

Odd how, after reading the post over and over and over I still missed that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, just like in the title. <img src='http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>D&#8217;oh!</p>
<p>Odd how, after reading the post over and over and over I still missed that&#8230;</p>
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