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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by actinomyces</title>
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		<dc:creator>actinomyces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I was reaaallly hoping it was fake. Damn. Never ceases to amaze me how this is possible, especially from someone who claims to understand research. Science is so not intuitive because of our many brain foibles, and I know plenty of scientists who hold unscientific beliefs--but not one of them would do this in a life or death situation.  Really wish I hadn&#039;t seen a picture of their adorable kids. Maybe they will do both the quackery plus real treatment? I sure hope for that at least. 

Realized later the quacks don&#039;t need to fake positive blogs, people who are likely to use their treatments already believe in the absence of any real evidence, so they will ascribe any improvement in their condition to the quackery and will be happy to tell everyone they were &quot;correct&quot; in their belief. Even one positive anecdote--regardless of its actual cause--will rope in desperate people like Danielle who mentioned how impressed she was by someone else&#039;s story of their experience with Mr. Young&#039;s methods. Our stupid primitive brains seem to do everything to convince us that stories from other people are the highest form of truth. Death by cognitive bias. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I was reaaallly hoping it was fake. Damn. Never ceases to amaze me how this is possible, especially from someone who claims to understand research. Science is so not intuitive because of our many brain foibles, and I know plenty of scientists who hold unscientific beliefs&#8211;but not one of them would do this in a life or death situation.  Really wish I hadn&#8217;t seen a picture of their adorable kids. Maybe they will do both the quackery plus real treatment? I sure hope for that at least. </p>
<p>Realized later the quacks don&#8217;t need to fake positive blogs, people who are likely to use their treatments already believe in the absence of any real evidence, so they will ascribe any improvement in their condition to the quackery and will be happy to tell everyone they were &#8220;correct&#8221; in their belief. Even one positive anecdote&#8211;regardless of its actual cause&#8211;will rope in desperate people like Danielle who mentioned how impressed she was by someone else&#8217;s story of their experience with Mr. Young&#8217;s methods. Our stupid primitive brains seem to do everything to convince us that stories from other people are the highest form of truth. Death by cognitive bias. Sad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by WilliamLawrenceUtridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamLawrenceUtridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In which case, my third and by far saddest possibility becomes most likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In which case, my third and by far saddest possibility becomes most likely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prince Charles Alternative Medicine Charity Closes by David Gorski</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/prince-charles-alternative-medicine-charity-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-92056</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No idea. Harkin is actually an interesting case. If you ask people at the NIH about him, you&#039;ll quickly find that they love him because they view him as a champion for medical research funding. And, by measures other than NCCAM, he is. He fights to protect and expand the NIH budget, for instance:

http://www.researchamerica.org/app/webroot/blog/?p=754
http://www.profilesofpromise.com/foreword

Unfortunately, I&#039;m sure that it is at least in part because Harkin has been such a champion for biomedical research funding that the NIH kowtows to him with respect to NCCAM. NIH leaders don&#039;t want to alienate one of their biggest supporters in Congress. The problem with Harkin, of course, is that along with the good (fighting for the NIH as a whole) comes the bad (creating and protecting NCCAM). NCCAM might just be the price that has to be paid to maintain Harkin&#039;s support for the NIH as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea. Harkin is actually an interesting case. If you ask people at the NIH about him, you&#8217;ll quickly find that they love him because they view him as a champion for medical research funding. And, by measures other than NCCAM, he is. He fights to protect and expand the NIH budget, for instance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.researchamerica.org/app/webroot/blog/?p=754" rel="nofollow">http://www.researchamerica.org/app/webroot/blog/?p=754</a><br />
<a href="http://www.profilesofpromise.com/foreword" rel="nofollow">http://www.profilesofpromise.com/foreword</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m sure that it is at least in part because Harkin has been such a champion for biomedical research funding that the NIH kowtows to him with respect to NCCAM. NIH leaders don&#8217;t want to alienate one of their biggest supporters in Congress. The problem with Harkin, of course, is that along with the good (fighting for the NIH as a whole) comes the bad (creating and protecting NCCAM). NCCAM might just be the price that has to be paid to maintain Harkin&#8217;s support for the NIH as a whole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by David Gorski</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since this post went live, I have found good reason to believe that Brad and Danielle are real and that Danielle really has pursued alternative medicine for her breast cancer. That&#039;s all I can say, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this post went live, I have found good reason to believe that Brad and Danielle are real and that Danielle really has pursued alternative medicine for her breast cancer. That&#8217;s all I can say, however.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by WilliamLawrenceUtridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamLawrenceUtridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see three possibilities here:

1) Brad is actually a troll, a contemptible asshole who is taking joy in causing pain in others.  In which case, fuck you, I hope you get cancer.  Fortunately for you, me hoping won&#039;t make it any more likely to occur - but still a man can dream.

2) Danielle and Brad are fake people made up by Dr. Young to promote his practice.  In which case, fuck Dr. Young as he is a contemptible asshole.  I hope he gets pancreatic cancer that metastasize to all of his bones.

3) Brad is real and genuinely the husband of a woman diagnosed with a rare and terrifying form of breast cancer.  He is holding his hope like air in a soap bubble, and the faintest exposure of that bubble to critical scrutiny will cause it to burst and leave him with naught but despair.  In which case, I hope that bubble bursts, and soon, because the hope inside it is false poison and it will kill your wife faster than anything else short of a bullet.  The reality is cancer is deadly and there are no simple solutions - just compromises of quality versus quantity of life, phyrric victories and - if we&#039;re lucky - sometimes a cure.  The brutal truth is - sometimes people get cancer and there&#039;s nothing we can do about it but make their last days easier.  I hope this is not the case, I hope Brad and Danielle are made up and not a tragedy unfolding before us - but hoping doesn&#039;t make it more likely.  If I&#039;m wrong, someone faces a short, ugly death and someone else will face a lifetime of regret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see three possibilities here:</p>
<p>1) Brad is actually a troll, a contemptible asshole who is taking joy in causing pain in others.  In which case, fuck you, I hope you get cancer.  Fortunately for you, me hoping won&#8217;t make it any more likely to occur &#8211; but still a man can dream.</p>
<p>2) Danielle and Brad are fake people made up by Dr. Young to promote his practice.  In which case, fuck Dr. Young as he is a contemptible asshole.  I hope he gets pancreatic cancer that metastasize to all of his bones.</p>
<p>3) Brad is real and genuinely the husband of a woman diagnosed with a rare and terrifying form of breast cancer.  He is holding his hope like air in a soap bubble, and the faintest exposure of that bubble to critical scrutiny will cause it to burst and leave him with naught but despair.  In which case, I hope that bubble bursts, and soon, because the hope inside it is false poison and it will kill your wife faster than anything else short of a bullet.  The reality is cancer is deadly and there are no simple solutions &#8211; just compromises of quality versus quantity of life, phyrric victories and &#8211; if we&#8217;re lucky &#8211; sometimes a cure.  The brutal truth is &#8211; sometimes people get cancer and there&#8217;s nothing we can do about it but make their last days easier.  I hope this is not the case, I hope Brad and Danielle are made up and not a tragedy unfolding before us &#8211; but hoping doesn&#8217;t make it more likely.  If I&#8217;m wrong, someone faces a short, ugly death and someone else will face a lifetime of regret.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dental X-rays and Brain Tumors — Oh My! by Calli Arcale</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/dental-x-rays-and-brain-tumors-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-92049</link>
		<dc:creator>Calli Arcale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We are also concerned that the authors apparently did not survey for other potential confounding factors, such as tobacco history, diet, occupational exposures, etc., or if so, they were not disclosed in the paper.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s an interesting point, since tobacco use is also associated with increased risk of periodontal disease and cosmetic issues like tooth staining, which could reasonably lead to tobacco users on average getting more dental x-rays than other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We are also concerned that the authors apparently did not survey for other potential confounding factors, such as tobacco history, diet, occupational exposures, etc., or if so, they were not disclosed in the paper.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point, since tobacco use is also associated with increased risk of periodontal disease and cosmetic issues like tooth staining, which could reasonably lead to tobacco users on average getting more dental x-rays than other people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prince Charles Alternative Medicine Charity Closes by cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering if people have made any serious effort to start a dialogue with Harkin (Hatch is a less promising target I think) and maybe help him clarify his thinking on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering if people have made any serious effort to start a dialogue with Harkin (Hatch is a less promising target I think) and maybe help him clarify his thinking on this matter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by evilrobotxoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>evilrobotxoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad:

I can&#039;t imagine how difficult this experience has been for you and Danielle.  I&#039;m sure that you didn&#039;t intend for her blog to get picked up by Dr. Gorski, and despite what I believe to be his best intentions, I&#039;m sure that this has been a difficult experience for the both of you.  I have no desire to add to the stress you must be feeling, but I do feel obliged to say one thing.  

I am not an oncologist, but I am a physician who also has a basic science PhD.  I have been trained in all sorts of statistics, advanced quantitative methods, experimental design, etc.  I feel that I am as capable as anyone of analyzing the literature, understanding the evidence, and making rational treatment decisions.  And if my wife or I became ill, I&#039;d like to think that I would still be able to operate in such an objective, rational manner.  But the truth is that I could not because that is simply not how people work.  There&#039;s a reason that doctors don&#039;t treat themselves or their immediate family members.  It&#039;s the same reason the plantiff&#039;s brother isn&#039;t allowed on the jury.  Based on what I&#039;ve read here, I don&#039;t question your intelligence, knowledge, motives, or anything like that, but I do question your objectivity.  I don&#039;t mean that as an insult - you would have to be some sort of psychopath to maintain complete objectivity in the face of your wife&#039;s illness.  However, since your conclusions differ greatly from the mainstream in the field of oncology, you may want to consider the possibility that other trained professionals might be in a better position than you or your wife to determine the best course of treatment based on the existing evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how difficult this experience has been for you and Danielle.  I&#8217;m sure that you didn&#8217;t intend for her blog to get picked up by Dr. Gorski, and despite what I believe to be his best intentions, I&#8217;m sure that this has been a difficult experience for the both of you.  I have no desire to add to the stress you must be feeling, but I do feel obliged to say one thing.  </p>
<p>I am not an oncologist, but I am a physician who also has a basic science PhD.  I have been trained in all sorts of statistics, advanced quantitative methods, experimental design, etc.  I feel that I am as capable as anyone of analyzing the literature, understanding the evidence, and making rational treatment decisions.  And if my wife or I became ill, I&#8217;d like to think that I would still be able to operate in such an objective, rational manner.  But the truth is that I could not because that is simply not how people work.  There&#8217;s a reason that doctors don&#8217;t treat themselves or their immediate family members.  It&#8217;s the same reason the plantiff&#8217;s brother isn&#8217;t allowed on the jury.  Based on what I&#8217;ve read here, I don&#8217;t question your intelligence, knowledge, motives, or anything like that, but I do question your objectivity.  I don&#8217;t mean that as an insult &#8211; you would have to be some sort of psychopath to maintain complete objectivity in the face of your wife&#8217;s illness.  However, since your conclusions differ greatly from the mainstream in the field of oncology, you may want to consider the possibility that other trained professionals might be in a better position than you or your wife to determine the best course of treatment based on the existing evidence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The drug expiry date:  A necessary safety measure, or yet another Big Pharma conspiracy? by Calli Arcale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calli Arcale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the more amusing examples of meaningless expiration dates comes from bottled water.  As some regulatory bodies in some countries require everything be marked with an expiration date, bottled water usually gets the industry standard two years, even though water is unlikely to degrade to anything else, and if properly bottled, should last almost indefinitely as long as the bottle remains sealed.  (Indeed, if a real expiration date were put on water, rather than the arbitrary two years, it would probably relate more to the bottle than the water, since plastic bottles can degrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the more amusing examples of meaningless expiration dates comes from bottled water.  As some regulatory bodies in some countries require everything be marked with an expiration date, bottled water usually gets the industry standard two years, even though water is unlikely to degrade to anything else, and if properly bottled, should last almost indefinitely as long as the bottle remains sealed.  (Indeed, if a real expiration date were put on water, rather than the arbitrary two years, it would probably relate more to the bottle than the water, since plastic bottles can degrade.</p>
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		<title>Comment on RISUG: Birth Control for Men by SkepticalHealth</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkepticalHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BilllyJoe, avoid it?? I know a lot of guys who&#039;d pay for an electrical current to the prostate!

(kidding)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BilllyJoe, avoid it?? I know a lot of guys who&#8217;d pay for an electrical current to the prostate!</p>
<p>(kidding)</p>
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		<title>Comment on RISUG: Birth Control for Men by mousethatroared</title>
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		<dc:creator>mousethatroared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BillyJoe

Heck, I&#039;m a woman and I&#039;d avoid this one (at least for a good long time). When I hear the description, not only do I cringe at the reversal process, but it draws to mind the initial problems with the IUD. I wonder about the device become dislodged and becoming embedded somewhere it shouldn&#039;t, causing failure or infection, negative reactions to the materials, scar tissue, etc.

I&#039;m not a scientist or medical person, but I&#039;d really want to see evidence of long term safety and effectiveness before jumping on this bandwagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BillyJoe</p>
<p>Heck, I&#8217;m a woman and I&#8217;d avoid this one (at least for a good long time). When I hear the description, not only do I cringe at the reversal process, but it draws to mind the initial problems with the IUD. I wonder about the device become dislodged and becoming embedded somewhere it shouldn&#8217;t, causing failure or infection, negative reactions to the materials, scar tissue, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a scientist or medical person, but I&#8217;d really want to see evidence of long term safety and effectiveness before jumping on this bandwagon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by David Gorski</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Jann&#039;s advice is excellent for any practitioner, &quot;alternative&quot; or conventional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jann&#8217;s advice is excellent for any practitioner, &#8220;alternative&#8221; or conventional.</p>
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		<title>Comment on RISUG: Birth Control for Men by BillyJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/risug-birth-control-for-men/comment-page-1/#comment-92039</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;RISUG can be reversed by injecting DMSO or bicarbonate and using a combination of vibration, a low electric current, and rectal massage to dislodge the polymer and move it through the vas deferens.&quot;

My feeling is that most males are going to find excuses to avoid this treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;RISUG can be reversed by injecting DMSO or bicarbonate and using a combination of vibration, a low electric current, and rectal massage to dislodge the polymer and move it through the vas deferens.&#8221;</p>
<p>My feeling is that most males are going to find excuses to avoid this treatment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Supplements and cancer prevention by Science-Based Medicine &#187; Prince Charles Alternative Medicine Charity Closes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; Prince Charles Alternative Medicine Charity Closes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the US we have our own versions of the Prince&#8217;s Foundation, namely the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) and the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA). The NCCAM is a vanity project of its major sponsor, Senator Tom Harkin, as much as the Prince&#8217;s Foundation was a project of Prince Charles. Likewise DSHEA was the result of the personal ideology of two senators, Harkin and Orin Hatch. The misnamed DSHEA essentially deregulated the supplement industry, leading to an explosion of dubious products, an expansion of the multi-billion dollar supplement industry, and all without a bit of evidence that there has been any benefit to the health of Americans. In fact, it is possible (and I think it&#8217;s likely) that there has been net harm. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the US we have our own versions of the Prince&#8217;s Foundation, namely the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) and the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA). The NCCAM is a vanity project of its major sponsor, Senator Tom Harkin, as much as the Prince&#8217;s Foundation was a project of Prince Charles. Likewise DSHEA was the result of the personal ideology of two senators, Harkin and Orin Hatch. The misnamed DSHEA essentially deregulated the supplement industry, leading to an explosion of dubious products, an expansion of the multi-billion dollar supplement industry, and all without a bit of evidence that there has been any benefit to the health of Americans. In fact, it is possible (and I think it&#8217;s likely) that there has been net harm. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Consumer Reports and Alternative Therapies by SkepticalHealth</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/consumer-reports-and-alternative-therapies/comment-page-1/#comment-92037</link>
		<dc:creator>SkepticalHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmoran, I apologize for bringing that up. I did not know you two were old acquaintances. I&#039;m still pretty new around these parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pmoran, I apologize for bringing that up. I did not know you two were old acquaintances. I&#8217;m still pretty new around these parts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by Science-Based Medicine » Another cancer tragedy in the making &#171; My Lymphoma Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine » Another cancer tragedy in the making &#171; My Lymphoma Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by Jann Bellamy</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/another-cancer-tragedy-in-the-making/comment-page-2/#comment-92035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jann Bellamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brad:

Even if you and your wife  won&#039;t accept conventional medical advice I do hope you will accept a bit of conventional legal advice.  Have an attorney in the state in which your wife is receiving treatment review any documents Mr. Young asks you or your wife to sign and be sure to give him or her a full background on Mr. Young. The attorney you choose should have a background in healthcare law.  And please do not sign any sort of release of liability -- it may not be effective anyway but no need to bother with the issue unnecessarily if you decide to sue in the future.  In fact, if you are asked to sign a release, that should be a big red flag.  And if Mr. Young won&#039;t treat your wife without your signing a release that should be an  even bigger red flag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brad:</p>
<p>Even if you and your wife  won&#8217;t accept conventional medical advice I do hope you will accept a bit of conventional legal advice.  Have an attorney in the state in which your wife is receiving treatment review any documents Mr. Young asks you or your wife to sign and be sure to give him or her a full background on Mr. Young. The attorney you choose should have a background in healthcare law.  And please do not sign any sort of release of liability &#8212; it may not be effective anyway but no need to bother with the issue unnecessarily if you decide to sue in the future.  In fact, if you are asked to sign a release, that should be a big red flag.  And if Mr. Young won&#8217;t treat your wife without your signing a release that should be an  even bigger red flag.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by mousethatroared</title>
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		<dc:creator>mousethatroared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@papertrail - on a positive note.

Yes, I recently had a wonderful woman in my workshop who has colon cancer. She said that due to the severity of the cancer, she hadn&#039;t expected to live for a couple years, but (due to some newer drugs, I think) her treatments had been surprisingly successful and she was five years post diagnoses and the cancer had not advanced.

Although she did have side effects from the periodic chemo, she appeared to be enjoying her life, taking art workshops, working with an art therapist through the local hospital, telling great stories about her family, grumbling about her sister and observing the wildlife she could see from her condo.

Maybe that&#039;s not the wonderful &quot;cure&quot; story that&#039;s popular, but if my Mom had lived an additional 3+ good quality years after her colon cancer diagnoses (17 years ago), I would have considered it a huge gift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@papertrail &#8211; on a positive note.</p>
<p>Yes, I recently had a wonderful woman in my workshop who has colon cancer. She said that due to the severity of the cancer, she hadn&#8217;t expected to live for a couple years, but (due to some newer drugs, I think) her treatments had been surprisingly successful and she was five years post diagnoses and the cancer had not advanced.</p>
<p>Although she did have side effects from the periodic chemo, she appeared to be enjoying her life, taking art workshops, working with an art therapist through the local hospital, telling great stories about her family, grumbling about her sister and observing the wildlife she could see from her condo.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s not the wonderful &#8220;cure&#8221; story that&#8217;s popular, but if my Mom had lived an additional 3+ good quality years after her colon cancer diagnoses (17 years ago), I would have considered it a huge gift.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another cancer tragedy in the making by David Gorski</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gorski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dr. Gorski, you do not have all of the information. Please read what is actually written – assumptions aren’t serving you well. Dr. Young’s protocol was a “step” in healing – NOT an end in and of itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I read the entire blog.

I saw nothing that you and Danielle are doing that has any convincing basis in science, and I did see you leap to Dr. Young&#039;s defense when &quot;anonymous&quot; criticized him. One wonders if, deep down, you now realize what a quack Dr. Young is and that&#039;s why you&#039;re now trying to downplay his role in Danielle&#039;s treatment.

After all, there was also a post in which it was explained that Danielle was putting together a team at home to follow Dr. Young&#039;s plan, plus the naturopath touting &quot;natural HER2 inhibitors&quot; and a DO putting together some sort of &quot;cancer vaccine.&quot; There was another post where Danielle exulted at being at Rancho Del Sol (Young&#039;s spa). If you are now trying to retreat from Dr. Young, that is excellent. Please continue. What I fear, however, is that in retreating from Dr. Young you&#039;re now looking for other non-science-based therapies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dr. Gorski, you do not have all of the information. Please read what is actually written – assumptions aren’t serving you well. Dr. Young’s protocol was a “step” in healing – NOT an end in and of itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>I read the entire blog.</p>
<p>I saw nothing that you and Danielle are doing that has any convincing basis in science, and I did see you leap to Dr. Young&#8217;s defense when &#8220;anonymous&#8221; criticized him. One wonders if, deep down, you now realize what a quack Dr. Young is and that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re now trying to downplay his role in Danielle&#8217;s treatment.</p>
<p>After all, there was also a post in which it was explained that Danielle was putting together a team at home to follow Dr. Young&#8217;s plan, plus the naturopath touting &#8220;natural HER2 inhibitors&#8221; and a DO putting together some sort of &#8220;cancer vaccine.&#8221; There was another post where Danielle exulted at being at Rancho Del Sol (Young&#8217;s spa). If you are now trying to retreat from Dr. Young, that is excellent. Please continue. What I fear, however, is that in retreating from Dr. Young you&#8217;re now looking for other non-science-based therapies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on RISUG: Birth Control for Men by relativitydrive</title>
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		<dc:creator>relativitydrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is I&#039;ve come up with a better solution and have been working on it for years.  By working on it I mean in the homeopathic way - doing nothing more than wishful thinking.

Take each male child at birth (and later on do all men) and put a couple of electronically controlled taps into the vas deferens set to OFF.  When people want children they apply to get it turned to ON for a selected period before it automatically turns back to OFF.  Easy as.

So, I was excited when I saw this option.  Then I realised this doesn&#039;t look so good but let&#039;s hope it can be used until Big Pharma fund me with millions of £££s...I can be contacted via this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is I&#8217;ve come up with a better solution and have been working on it for years.  By working on it I mean in the homeopathic way &#8211; doing nothing more than wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Take each male child at birth (and later on do all men) and put a couple of electronically controlled taps into the vas deferens set to OFF.  When people want children they apply to get it turned to ON for a selected period before it automatically turns back to OFF.  Easy as.</p>
<p>So, I was excited when I saw this option.  Then I realised this doesn&#8217;t look so good but let&#8217;s hope it can be used until Big Pharma fund me with millions of £££s&#8230;I can be contacted via this site.</p>
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