I may just be very lucky. It may also have something to do with my anatomical weirdness, although another woman on my ward also found relief from the drug.

I would have tried anything to get off that ward though, even the free morphine couldn’t make the place bearable.

“BillyJoe — I didn’t say “dissolve” I said “resolve”. There’s a difference.”

Yep, I read “dissolve” (D

While it may be possible that, let’s take chromium as an example, may reduce your blood glucose (not saying it does or does not, only that it may be possible), IF it does so, then by how much? Enough to provide some degree of real treatment, or just a tiny little bit that won’t make any difference to the health of any diabetic relying on chromium as any degree of a treatment.

This is the difference between an effective treatment and an ineffective treatment.

So the WOO mob get all caught up with, “OOOH, chromium reduces glucose by 1.1% (just my made up figure there, I actually doubt that chromium has any effect on hyperglycaemia), let’s all take chromium and cure our diabetes because it is SOOO effective and is not made by big pharma and it’s natural and it’s a vitamin and we know what dose rate to use even without any trials to prove efficacy and safety, so there you sciencey dudes”

A note on the use of Tamsulosin vs ureteral uroliths:

Spontaneous passage of ureteral stones at 14 days (the primary outcome) did not differ significantly between the tamsulosin and conventional-therapy groups (77% and 65% of patients, respectively). In addition, no significant differences were noted between groups in time to stone passage, self-reported pain scores, number of colicky pain episodes, unscheduled return ED or primary care visits, number of missed workdays, amount of analgesic used, or incidence of adverse events.
Comment: This is not the first time that a therapy that had been shown to be effective for a subspecialty outpatient population fails to show similar results for ED patients with apparently comparable disease. Routine use of tamsulosin for ED patients with renal colic caused by small (4 mm) distal stones likely has no value. More study is required to determine its usefulness in ED patients with larger or more-proximal stones.

— Richard D. Zane, MD, FAAEM
Published in Journal Watch Emergency Medicine October 9, 2009
CITATION(S):
Ferre RM et al. Tamsulosin for ureteral stones in the emergency department: A randomized, controlled trial. Ann Emerg Med 2009 Sep; 54:432.

May all non crazy people here have a lovely day

The rest I’ve had resolve on their own. I’m on Tamsulosin off-label. It is sheer magic.

Its intended purpose is to relieve benign prostatitis, but my urologist prescribes it to help stones pass, and it works brilliantly. It saved me from surgery! If it’s OTC where your friend lives, maybe he could try. it.

(Unless she claims Elvis is dead when everyone knows he just went home as per the movie Men in Black.)

Please. Elvis died after he and JFK killed the mummy in Bubba Ho-Tep.

” revulsion at the abuses perpetrated led to the development of the Nuremberg Code of medical ethics.

Actually, becoming similar with what is done today..sorry to say. “

Right, that’s the limit. As somebody whose family members were tortured to death in Block 10 – F*CK YOU.

You’re a germ theory denying, woo-infested, brainless dolt. You are absolutely deranged. Your pathetic little anecdotes about fellow idiots who think they’ve “cured” health problems with sCAM (when in actuality they’re just going through the typical course of self-limiting conditions) mean nothing. Nada, zip, zilch.

This is a place of SCIENCE, we’ll never, ever take your woo seriously. Got it?

Mods/Docs – sorry for the outburst, but comparing modern doctors and scientists to Mengele was the last straw. It not only minimises what actually happened, but makes a mockery of everything scientists are working for.

Kidney stones don’t dissolve.
The most likely explanation is that this 7mm stone passed down the ureter into the bladder and out through the urethra.
Stones 5mm or less usually pass spontaneously.
Stones 5-10mm pass 50% of the time.

I add dried oregano, fresh-ground black pepper for an excellent vinaigrette atop Greek salad.

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01/07/2006: Cyndi from Durham, NC writes: “I have suffered intermittently from kidney stones for nearly 9 years. One was so bad I had to have surgery to remove it. Later, my grandmother was hospitalized with a kidney stone and told me about a home remedy given to her by a nurse and believe me, this really works! Mix 2 oz of olive oil and 2 oz of lemon juice, drink it straight down and follow with a large glass of water at the first sign of stone pain. The stone(s) will pass within 24 hours. I have eliminated at least 8 stones with this remedy and have not gone back to the urologist since I started taking this.”

and one responded:

I did this last month with a 7 mm stone and the 01/16 15:22:23

urologist was a little upset that it dissolved the stone. He was going to do a very expensive procedure on me that would have been both invasive and painful.

https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=205117084

then one other referred to and posted this:

https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=205117084

I read this on here last year when my son was dealing with kidney stones and it worked. Sure can’t hurt.

Sorry you’re going through all this, my son said it was pure hell.
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I’m wondering what you all think of the above, and if you had kidney stones, would you possibly try it also.

RustyHealth harps on a theme I have noted in a lot of my former altie acquaintances: “It’s the EXPERIENCE”. They see this as a method of “proof”. If you “experience” something, it is, ergo, valid! Experience trumps all is the mantra for them, and science something only to be casually dismissed as something that tries hard but just doesn’t meet the spiritual guidelines of “real life experience”.

Yes, that’s very common. I think it has a great deal to do with a lack of appreciation for the myriad cognitive distortions to which the human brain is subject. If it “makes sense” and “feels right,” that must mean it’s correct. You have to understand things like confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to realize why experience is so fallible a guide.

I see significant parallels to ancient Greek philosophy, perhaps best exemplified by Plato. In particular the belief that the correct way to understand how the world works is simply to think about it. Quackery has never gotten beyond that point to embrace empiricism.

Do you need any help Rusty, packing up your belongings, for your relocation?

Make that : “Maybe back in Banting’s day, pharmaceutical companies and society in general WEREN’T quite so profit driven.”

I did not know Costco’s founder said that and it makes me love Costco even more. I may even buy some Costco shares.

I’d never seen the “diseases are vitamin deficiencies” argument before.

Right here is one example. Enjoy.

I cannot find any record or John Ritter playing Banting, but there was a Canadian made for TV movie, “Glory Enough for All” (1988) that I well remember. It starred a Canadian fixture – R.H. Thompson, who has a striking resemblance to Dr. Banting. It’s not a great film, but it hits all the “movie of the week” highlights.