Now, comparatively, the AANP blog does not allow any comments besides the kind of circle-jerk that keeps that mode of thinking isolated from actual thought.

I’m proud of the discussion here even in its’ dissention, because it speaks for democracy, and a collective commons.

Naturopathy, on the other hand, along the lines of what is traditional and time-worn, does not allow for dissent.

No, it doesn’t cut off hands for that.

Yet, it simply doesn’t allow comment on its US blog space.

-r.c.

“…intravenous (IV) or intramuscular (IM) nutritional support…for many different symptoms and disease processes…These could include, but are not limited to Lyme’s disease, Epstein-Barr infection, hepatitis, multiple sclerosis (or any other auto-immune disease), and cancer.”

They continue:

“A basic IV with electrolytes can be perfect for an individual suffering from temporary dehydration during the flu or food poisoning. A hydrating IV with amino acids can also be a great addition to a sports nutrition program for endurance athletes that want to take their results to the highest possible level. If caught at first sign of symptoms, a nutritional IV can be a perfect way to ward off cold and flu, or as a preventative boost for the immune system.”
“A nutritional IV takes about an hour to infuse, however for a super quick boost for the immune system, a Wellness injection is the perfect solution! These are a big hit during the fall/winter months and use a combination of B12 and specific immune boosting homeopathics that can be given as a quick IM shot in the arm in less than 5 minutes!”

http://namastehealthcenter.com/services/ivtherapy.html

Colorado has around a hundred “degreed” naturopaths who practice openly, without fear that the Board of Medical Examiners will enforce the state’s Medical Practice Act. What sort of professional ethics is this…on both their parts?

Scientifically proven, that, neuroplasticity, don’t you know.

Look it up. I’m sure I’m right.

Alas, he didn’t keep that promise.

“Stand Back I’m going to Try Science”

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006FCNW48/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=geek03b-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B006FCNW48

Thank you, this is exactly my point. I discovered this blog looking for the latest and greatest in the medical research, instead almost exclusively posters here fight anything that doesn’t agree with their views and established norms. I wish there were more about the science and discoveries and I believe there is plenty of worthwhile goes on.

You missed the point of the blog, which is not to point to the latest and greatest research. Such blogs exist, Scienceblogs has several, but given the sub-sub-sub-specialization of research these days, you’re most likely to find extremely niche-interest topics.

This blog is about, in part, bringing prior probability into the assessment of medicine. The kinds of blogs you are looking for, genuine scientific advances, would have prior probability built into them, since they are genuinely science-based. SCAM therapies have very little prior probability, which is why they are discussed here so often – they are exemplars, often epitomes of therapies that lack prior probability. Don’t complain out this blog because it doesn’t meet your expectations. Feel free to start your own. Or stick around and honestly try to learn from your fallacies, since you are falling prey to several used commonly in SCAM circles – ad hominen, bait and switch, irrelevant tangents, false dilemma, and more if I took the time to look for more specifics.

And unlike MDs who post here, my doctors are top-notch at what they do and they are affiliated with the top Med Centers in this country.

You should comment on their blogs then.

At this day and age, your statements about the cannabis are simply silly. There is plenty of decent research on the subject, do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the subject. In regards to the cost: it’s either your “supply guy” rips you off or your insurance is incredible.

…none of which addresses the fact that the limitations on cannabis as treatment and research subject is legal and political, not medical.

I don’t promote any evidence of anything. But there are times when it doesn’t matter that much whether there is a hard science behind something as long as it works. Unfortunately, I had to experience those times and I found something that works for me and worked for others.
BTW, what is a scientific definition of “cured”?

What’s your definition of “works” though? If “works” means “I feel better”, there are lots of things that will do that. There are even more cognitive tricks the human mind uses to fool itself into attributing causality. If “works” or “cured” means “cleared up my fungal infection”, “eliminated my bronchitis in less than two days”, “made my urinary tract infection go away in less than 24 hours” or “cut out that cancerous tumor that prevented me from pooping”, stick with medicine. If “works” or “cured” means “made my vague symptoms attached to no objectively proven condition go away”, then nearly anything will “work”.

The scientific definition for “cured” would be very specific, because science deals in specifics. SCAMS deals with vagueries, unprovable claims and nonexistent syndromes, which is why they are criticized so consistently on this blog. If by “cured” you mean “expensively provided some emotional coping for my nonspecific problems”, SCAMS are a great way to go.

Naturally the specifics of your case would be different, and I don’t care about them.

But that said, has anyone considered an epidemic of prescribed pain-killer abuse in this country? Or a prescribed steroid abuse? Or antibiotics? Those are all science-based and tested meds, aren’t they?

Citations needed, and it depends. Antibiotics are excellent at treating specific strains of non-resistant bacteria, the are terrible at treating sarcoidosis as per the Marshall protocol.

Didn’t mean to offend. Cheer up, would you?

Can’t, you keep posting non sequitur, and failing to acknowledge them. This annoys me. And, like Narad, I find your evasions tedious and irksome.

What is your point? Science-based meds are not supposed to be able to be abused? Where the hell did you come up with that?

“I discovered this blog looking for the latest and greatest in the medical research, instead almost exclusively posters here fight anything that doesn’t agree with their views and established norms.”

So, you are looking for the sexy and not the mundane that you find here. I wouldn’t say I fight anything that doesn’t agree with my view. I prefer to critically examine it before accepting or rejecting it, in part or in whole. Science marches on, but slowly. New discoveries frequently give rise to more questions than they answered. That is as it should be. The more I learn, the less, I find, I know. Finally, it may be worthwhile for the bloggers to do post, on a more regular basis, evaluating a recent medical advance.

At this day and age, your statements about the cannabis are simply silly.

No, I think my questions about “the cannabis” are quite straightforward, as is your evasion of them.

There is plenty of decent research on the subject, do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the subject.

It is not my job to defend your assertions for you. Sorry to harsh your buzz.

In regards to the cost: it’s either your “supply guy” rips you off or your insurance is incredible.

This doesn’t even add up to a coherent response. I know what the price of cannabis is. I even know what the overhead for indoor cultivation is like, having engaged in it (n.b.: statute of limitations long past). The fact remains that this can quickly add up to thousands or tens of thousands of dollars a year depending on the amount that a person needs. Blowing three spliffs a day? That’s about an ounce a week, or around $400 from a dispensary. I am not arguing against medical marijuana, I am pointing out that saying foolish things does not a case make.

So were you referring to your experience? Sure, yours is just as valid.

XSkeptic: And just FYI, I am patient, so trust me, I spent a lot of time researching the subjects and not only that, but tried many of the “non-scientifically proven” remedies and lived to share the experience.

Sialis: And just FYI, I am patient, so trust me, I spent a lot of time researching the subjects and not only that, but tried many of the “non-scientifically proven” remedies and barely lived to share the experience.

@Sialis

Was this meant as a joke? If so, you are a pretty sick puppy.

My experiences are just as valid as your anecdotes, and mine are consistent with the current evidence. Hindsight’s 20/20 for a reason.

Thank you, this is exactly my point. I discovered this blog looking for the latest and greatest in the medical research, instead almost exclusively posters here fight anything that doesn’t agree with their views and established norms. I wish there were more about the science and discoveries and I believe there is plenty of worthwhile goes on.

@Marc Stephens

A loaded question, isn’t it? Let me guess: after my response you expect to tear me apart about how superior you are compared to my humble simpleton self and how I don’t understand anything. Well, I understand enough so that doctors that treat me take it seriously enough. And unlike MDs who post here, my doctors are top-notch at what they do and they are affiliated with the top Med Centers in this country.

@Narad

At this day and age, your statements about the cannabis are simply silly. There is plenty of decent research on the subject, do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the subject. In regards to the cost: it’s either your “supply guy” rips you off or your insurance is incredible.

@William

I don’t promote any evidence of anything. But there are times when it doesn’t matter that much whether there is a hard science behind something as long as it works. Unfortunately, I had to experience those times and I found something that works for me and worked for others.

BTW, what is a scientific definition of “cured”?

@mouse

A very valid point and a good comparison. Just like with everything, different things work for different people and it’s up to an individual to decide. But that said, has anyone considered an epidemic of prescribed pain-killer abuse in this country? Or a prescribed steroid abuse? Or antibiotics? Those are all science-based and tested meds, aren’t they?

@Sialis

Was this meant as a joke? If so, you are a pretty sick puppy.

@Y’all

Didn’t mean to offend. Cheer up, would you?

That would most probably be black salve. A hideous substance, but naturopaths and alties love it. It’s even worse than MMS. On the “What’s The Harm” site I posted above, there are cases involving black salve. No happy endings.

Black salve is used by followers of the Edgar Cayce readings. Their international headquarters is in Virginia Beach, Virginia with chapters in other towns across the state and throughout the world. They operate under the name of Association for Research and Enlightenment (A.R.E).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_Research_and_Enlightenment

That would most probably be black salve. A hideous substance, but naturopaths and alties love it. It’s even worse than MMS. On the “What’s The Harm” site I posted above, there are cases involving black salve. No happy endings.

Most likely. At least in the case of dysplasia, the treatment is removal of cells at the surface, so there is some plausibility it would work. I would hope she had it administered by a doctor during colposcopy so it was only applied to the actual dysplastic cells. Shoving it up one’s hoo-hah would seem to invite an awful lot of collateral damage to get rid of those cells, after all.