isn’t the decision to fluoridate a water supply usually an issue that one’s community can vote on?

Well, yes, but it’s not always direct. In Paudano v. City of New York, one of the prongs came down to the ability of the city to grant plenary power to the Board of Health, so one would have to start at the top.

The inclusion of fluoride is not arbitrary, as we have solid scientific evidence that it is a beneficial move in terms of public health. If it was a random chemical we were dumping into water without testing, or one that had severe side effects or a terrible cost/benefit ratio, then your point would stand. But in this case, it does not.

The other commenters here can correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the decision to fluoridate a water supply usually an issue that one’s community can vote on? If so, that further strengthens my point, seeing as how that “authority” is not unrestrained. You might not agree with the popular vote, but it stands. And in this case, stands with the backing of solid scientific reasoning.

The inclusion of fluoride is not arbitrary, as we have solid scientific evidence that it is a beneficial move in terms of public health. If it was a random chemical we were dumping into water without testing, or one that had severe side effects or a terrible cost/benefit ratio, then your point would stand. But in this case, it does not.

The other commenters here can correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the decision to fluoridate a water supply usually an issue that one’s community can vote on? If so, that further strengthens my point. You might not agree with the popular vote, but it stands. And in this case, stands with the backing of solid scientific reasoning.

And other such accusations as can be dredged from a brandy-deficient brain.

Bearfoot Doctor [sic] springs to mind, but she probably wouldn’t get it.

It does speak to the tendentious repetition, but what do you expect when all you’re reading is the sound of empty thoughts echoing in an empty chamber.

My point exactly!

Other than crucifixition……

FL: “So yes, RH, “what are you doing here if you don’t like science as it is done and should be done”?”

Check and Mate!

Aha! Tyranny! You’re forcing your undaunted fallacious opinions on us no matter what we choose to think or believe. You claim to know what everyone else needs to know, which is the self-made wisdom of your own opinions.

Naturalistic tyrant!

Country commissar!

Baking soda bully!

Vitamin-D-ictator!

Organic oppressor!

And other such accusations as can be dredged from a brandy-deficient brain.

the bottom line is…forcing anything on anyone against their will is Tyranny…it doesn’t matter whether you’re right or wrong, scientific or unscientific. Forcing fluoride on everyone against their knowledge and will is Tyranny. It’s Water..not a dental treatment..no matter what you or anyone else would like it to be..and it’s Tyranny to force others to have what You say is good for them..against their will. I do know you all need to learn that..sooner rather than later.

o, please..”don’t weep for me”…weep for yourself

The level of hatred and paranoia in those posts are seriously destructive of social well-being. (what on earth are you talking about ‘social well-being?..I Don’t Want Fluoride Forced on me in My Water..does that hurt your *feelings*?

((I can only hope that she conducts her life away from this website in a more collegial manner, especially to those with different beliefs))??. (see my post to Dave) and know the difference between ‘belief’ and respect of it..and being tyrannized actually by Your Belief that we all should have fluoride in water because you say so.

(( Overall, I really feel sorry for her, and for the corner she’s painted herself into, and I am sorry as well for the unpleasant level of discourse which really detracts from the overall high standards upheld here))….

like when one wished my ovaries were cut out of me?, or I should be turned into compost, or without end called a ‘moron’, as WLU just did? or “greedy”, because I don’t want to fill someone else’s bank account and pay for their healthcare? *insensitive* to a rich girls sex life…etc etc etc? lol you haven’t been paying attention apparently..anyway..ending this (I think) good nite.

you ARE forcing your beliefs (science) on us all by putting fluoride in water.

This claim is so ridiculous I am at loss for words. You have beliefs. We don’t. Well, we do, but they’re not related to science. And we’re not forcing anyone to accept science. The vast majority of commenters here, with the exception of cranks like you, see the value of science in and as itself. Nor are we putting fluoride in anyone’s water (unless someone here has any sway in public policy).

So yes, RH, “what are you doing here if you don’t like science as it is done and should be done”?

You are the one in this debate utilizing a belief system. You believe fluoride is unsafe, yet you fail to show any solid reasoning to back up that claim. When commenters here explain to you why your reasoning is unsound, you just ignore them and keep hopping to the next argument.

You can’t say that Dave has his science and you have yours. There’s things that have been shown utilizing the scientific method, and things that haven’t.

Honestly, I think people would at least respect you around here if you were humble enough to just say “Yes, I know the overwhelming body of collected knowledge in the past years has shown fluoride to be perfectly safe and beneficial. Yes, I understand I have no evidence to support my claim that it is somehow bad, however I still don’t like it.”

At least then you would be admitting you’re just following a personal belief system instead of trying to make up claims about fluoride that just aren’t true.

the bottom line is…forcing anything on anyone against their will is Tyranny…

Perhaps your time would be better spent marching up and down in front of the Post Office wearing a sandwich board in protest, if this is the level of your ideation.

If you did in fact understand me well, I would be interested in hearing your opinion of the hypothetical situation I presented as an example. What should the Catholics’ response be to my hypothetical atheist? Or do you refuse to look introspectively and challenge your preconceived notions and biases? How would they have reacted differently than we have?