Quackery Then and Now
“The forces of graft and unrighteousness are peculiar to no country or clime, and they have their champions in the high places and the low. Until the people themselves are better educated concerning the danger and iniquity of quackery, they must be protected from the forces that prey. The popular understanding of these matters is becoming better every day, and, aided by proper laws, the time will come, perhaps, when quackery will be unprofitable.”
The above quote is from a recently published JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) article. I should say that it is republished, because it first appeared on June 8, 1912. The brief article outlines the issues surrounding the regulation of medical practice so as to protect the public from “quackery.” It is interesting to see that the issues faced 100 years ago are virtually identical (in broad brush strokes) to those we face today. Despite the fact that so much has changed in medicine over the last century, in this regard very little has changed.
To put this article into historical context, it was published just two years after the Flexner Report, generally recognized as the turning point in American and Canadian medical education when it truly embraced scientific and evidence-based practices. Mainstream medicine in 1912 was barely making the transition from being based upon tradition and authority to having scientific backing and genuine standards. Life expectancy in the US had just passed 50, up from a low of around 40 thirty years earlier. Phrenology was still practiced by mainstream psychiatrists and neurologists – although it was on the way out (having recently been refuted by scientific studies) and was increasingly being pushed to the fringe. The last purely homeopathic medical school in the US would not close until 1920. Patent medicines were still the norm, and the 1906 Pure Food and Drugs Act had only recently been enacted to establish some standards of safety in the medicine marketplace (this would essentially transform into the FDA in 1930).
Although nascent, a science-based standard of care was being embraced by the medical establishment in the early 20th century. The problem of quackery, or falsely pretending to have medical knowledge and expertise, was recognized for centuries. In 1912, as now, one key issue is regulation and the standard of care. The 1912 JAMA article states:
In Germany during the early part of the nineteenth century, laws against quackery were stringent and effective, but curiously enough, at the instance of the medical society of Berlin in 1869, the regulations against irregular practice were much relaxed and the result was a tremendous development of quackery in Germany. Berthenson1 says that in 1869 the number of quacks in Berlin was twenty-eight. In twenty-four years the number was over a thousand and the whole number practicing in Prussia was over five thousand.
We appear to be experiencing the same exact phenomenon now. As soon as regulations are lightened, dubious practitioners come out of the woodwork and thrive. There is a great deal of money to be made making false medical claims to people desperate for relief or a cure. The potential for profit is an effective an powerful force that will generate quackery to whatever extent it is allowed to exist. The article also mentions that the scope of practice for “unqualified practitioners” was greatly expanded in Prussia, leading to an explosion of quackery there.
In modern times the profit motive is coupled with the ability to lobby the government. This creates a situation in which non-scientific practitioners have a motive to persistently lobby the government for recognition, coverage, and expansion of their scope of practice. Even when those who seek to protect the public from unsafe practices oppose such lobbying efforts, it is often a losing game. Dubious practitioners ratchet up their privileges by tirelessly lobbying that overwhelms well-meaning vigilance. There is no money to be made in defending the science-based standard, while those who seek to erode that standard have a tremendous profit motive.
The only solution is for governments to recognize the need for effective regulation to protect the health consumer from fraud and from unsafe and ineffective practices.
It seems that those lobbying for a weakening of such regulations have been using the same strategy for at least a century – claim that such regulations are anti-freedom. The article notes:
This has led to strongly organized opposition, similar to the League for Medical Freedom in our country, and, as in the case of our own Congress, the opposition has found support in the Reichstag. This feeling was shown by the chilly reception which the first reading of the proposed legislation received in that body, the same reason being ascribed as here, namely, that the measure would create a “medical trust.”
The National League of Medical Freedom (1884 to 1956) served the same purpose as many “health care freedom” movements and organizations do today – to oppose any regulation that attempts to establish a standard of care. A 1910 editorial in the New York times by a Dr. Lyman Abbot demonstrates that the issues faced then were then same as now:
It is not easy to conceive any commercial interest opposed to the organization of such a bureau except the interests involved in the sale of quack medicines. The great issue of our time, perhaps of all times, is that joined in various forms between special interest and the public welfare. It is difficult to conceive any special interests more dangerous to the public welfare than those which are opposed to efficient measures for the protection of public health, unless it be those which are organized for the promotion of public vice.
Dr. Abbot was discussing the opposition by the National League of Medical Freedom to the creation of a National Bureau of Health specifically for the control of epidemics that were plaguing the country at that time, such as hookworm, bubonic plague, and “consumption” (tuberculosis). The National Bureau of Health apparently never came into being, and the Department of Health, Education and Welfare was not created until 1953.
We can see the core conflict between those attempting to promote public health through regulation and those opposing any government regulation of health care because it is inconvenient to dubious practices and health products. Today we have “health care freedom laws” in many states, the purpose of which is to erode the standard of care in medicine so that fraudulent practices cannot be regulated. Their rhetorical strategy is to convince the public that they are defending their freedoms, when in fact they are defending their own freedom to practice health fraud without government protections for the public. Health care freedom laws and anti-regulation movements are generally anti-consumer. They are designed to remove protections for the consumer from fraudulent and misleading practices and claims made by the “quack” medical industry.
DSHEA is another example of this – a law passed in 1994 as a gift to the supplement industry. In my opinion, this law is anti-consumer, and it demonstrably lead to an explosion of worthless supplement products with dubious health claims.
We can also see in the JAMA editorial another anti-regulation strategy – categorizing establishing a standard of care as elitism. The editorial refers to this as fears over establishing a “medical trust.” Of course any regulation that attempts to establish reasonable standards, quality control, and professionalism can be dismissed as elitism.
Finally, it was also interesting, and perhaps a bit disheartening, to see that the proposed fixes to the problem of quackery are the same as has been proposed by those of us defending science-based medicine today. The JAMA article concludes:
“The popular understanding of these matters is becoming better every day, and, aided by proper laws, the time will come, perhaps, when quackery will be unprofitable.”
In other words, the control of quackery is a matter of public education and effective regulation. That, in a nutshell, is exactly the agenda of Science-Based Medicine, the Institute for Science in Medicine, and other organizations dedicated today to opposing pseudoscience and quackery in health care. Our perspective tends to exist in a temporal bubble – we think that the conflicts of today are unique to us, and that we innovated the ideas we use to defend our causes. History, however, tells a different story. The conflict between reasonable standards in medicine and quackery is as old as medicine. It is no wonder that the notion of “eternal recurrence” is so common in literature and popular culture, from Peter Pan to Battlestar Galactica:
“All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.”
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Just to clarify, I took approximately 1000mg Vitamin C for 5 years and average 2000mg when I was sick, and I was sick on several occasions, ranging from throat infection to fever/vomiting to head cold symptoms. I was also pretty scrupulous about organic food and free range/humanely treated, non-antibiotics treated/non-hormone treated meats. Some ten years after dropping all these habits, I can assure you my health hasn’t changed much at all.
My point is not that my experience disproves yours, but that it doesn’t prove anything. If I were a doctor, should I start telling everyone to stop taking vitamins and eating organic food because in my experience it didn’t do anything? It’s the same evidence that you have, but even I wouldn’t think it was an example for anyone else. Why is that?
The purpose of a clinical trial is to combine many people’s experiences to see what applies to everyone. You find clinical trials that show extra vitamins help sickness, someone else finds trials that show the opposite. Can we agree that one of the trials has to be wrong? How can we tell which one is better, which one can be trusted?
And notice your website talks about placebos, but placebo effects are relatively minor compared to all the other things that happen in a person life that might effect their health positively. Much more important is that people often can’t be sure about what the real cause for something is; if I do a dance before it rains, did my dance cause the rain? (I hope we can agree the answer is no).
You get better after taking vitamins and organic food, but are they both responsible or is one more important? Did you change anything else in your life? More exercise? Less exercise? Did you move to a new place or home? Spend more time outside? Do you pay attention to your food more than you did before? Do you eat healthier (more fruits and veggies) now that you eat only organic foods? I’m not asking for answers, but couldn’t any one of these things also have improved your health.
All of these things apply to my experience with vitamins/organic food as well, regardless of the answers; they apply to everyone who is making a health claim they want other people to take seriously. If we can’t rule out other causes then from a scientific perspective everything else is just a guess. It might be a guess that conforms to your experience, but it’s still a guess.
God damn, rustic is a f-ing blithering idiot. I just can’t believe that someone can be so absolutely stupid and get through the day. I mean, how does she wake up, remember to breath, eat, and not manage to just walk right into traffic?
I can’t believe this post has garnered more than 600 comments, with than 25% of those being by @rustichealthy… why on earth are we still wasting our time and energy reading and replying to her blathering?
It looks like she has devolved to just conversing with herself. I am certainly not reading her comments, which is about the same effort she spent trying to learn.
Put another way, you wouldn’t attribute your recovery to your intervention unless you constantly try something each time. See also regression to the mean. The body is pretty good at healing itself despite interventions (in fact, in the case of acute viral infection the only real solution is to wait for the body’s immune system to recognize the pathogen and produce antibodies), and most people start “doing something” when things are at their worst and likely to get better anyway. You have a sniffle, you ignore it. You are chilly, you put on a sweater. Your nose runs, you blow it. You get all three at once, indicating your immune system is at its peak vigor, you start to get better anyway. Probably at the same time you start taking large doses of vitamins.
So in other words, you don’t know if they went away because of his changes in eating habits, or simply because allergies can spontaneously resolve. Again, is this regression to the mean, were they going to get better anyway, or was his body gradually becoming desensitized to the allergen due to years of exposure?
Do those studies represent the state of the art studies that exist, taken together as a fair and balanced assessment of the body of research, or are you cherry-picking the studies you like and ignoring the ones that don’t confirm what you think is true anyway? There are scientific articles published known as meta-analyses and systematic reviews that take a disciplined approach to summarizing an entire body of knowledge, not single studies, and seeing what they say collectively. Reading a single article is more likely to give an erroneous answer, positively or negatively.
Would you take willow bark for pain? Would you be concerned over coughing up blood? Would you take hormones, which are natural? Is diabetes natural? Is injecting insulin?
What is the denominator in these cases? How many people who suffer adverse effects would have died without medication?
@LMAO
The main reason I do it, aside from as an exercise in skeptical thinking and an opportunity for research, is because people are naturally inclined to listen to anecdotes and providing counter-examples is hopefully a useful antithesis. For instance, my wife knew a guy whose job was basically to exercise and eat healthy, and did so every day. He was in phenomenal shape, close to the peak a human can reach. One day he scraped his arm on a metal edge. Three days later his arm had swelled up to several times its size and they were contemplating amputating – staph infection.
Vitamins and the like give the illusion of control, but the reality is we are always at risk, and pretending organic food is medicine while opposing vaccination (and confusing vaccines with antibiotics) doesn’t make those risks go away.
PJ..when I went organic, the one major thing that changed was I ate less. I no longer craved/obsessed..since no more hormones/antibiotics especially in dairy and meats. Well, maybe you’re right..I ate better food too. So did my son. But, that would mean we had less toxins and more vitamins from them. I don’t take/need as many Vit. C’s as I used to before I went organic. And, the calcium worked on the arthritis for a woman I know, and myself…coincidence..hmmm..I don’t know. Anyway, we can agree less toxins and healthier food the better I hope. Thanks for talking.
Just one more thing..when I did get sick, going organic, I did take extra vitamins and natural remedies when I needed to. You said you took 1000 Vit. C a day..an extra 1000 when you needed to..did you take any other vitamins? omega 3s? ..extra when you got a sore throat or anything else? Vit. C is not the only vitamin I take either. It wasn’t enough by itself, I needed others, flax seed oil, Vit. D. I’m not saying I can’t/won’t come down with something, but when I do I take extra nutrients right away also. Anyway..I wondered if that was the difference, and wanted to make that clear too. Have a nice day.
I’m not a scientist, but, I do know there are many studies I’ve found on line,
Do those studies represent the state of the art studies that exist, taken together as a fair and balanced assessment of the body of research, or are you cherry-picking the studies you like and ignoring the ones that don’t confirm what you think is true anyway? There are scientific articles published known as meta-analyses and systematic reviews that take a disciplined approach to summarizing an entire body of knowledge, not single studies, and seeing what they say collectively. Reading a single article is more likely to give an erroneous answer, positively or negatively.
William..wouldn’t the fact that I had already experienced for myself first, the effectiveness of vitamins first..on my asthma and arthritis..and then, find studies to say the same, mean something a little more substantial? That’s what I’m trying to say. I didn’t read something and then try to apply it and somehow “wish” it worked the way they said or the way I wanted it to and so it did. Anyway..that’s my thinking.. and I’m exhausted lol visit my site if you wish..good nite.
“William..wouldn’t the fact that I had already experienced for myself first, the effectiveness of vitamins first..on my asthma and arthritis..and then, find studies to say the same, mean something a little more substantial?”
Rustic, I’m not trying to change your opinion or convince your of anything. I’m trying to explain what science-based medicine is all about. If you’re not interested, again what are you doing on this website? I think everyone on this thread can fairly repeat what you’ve been saying, yet I still wonder if you’re understanding the basic ideas behind this website. You don’t need to be scientist to get a basic understanding of science.
Please Google “scientific method.” I’ve read you’re website and I’m surprised you spent so much time on that but seem unwilling to even look into the ideas behind the science method. The underlying principles in no contradict your beliefs.
To address that specific quote, what if the studies that agree with you are wrong? Same applies to me, perhaps the best studies disagree with all my experiences with vitamins and organic food; then I would honestly reconsider those beliefs. Again, how do I choose between two studies that get opposite results? You’re saying, whichever matches my experience. But shouldn’t we be able to determine whether a study is good or bad before we know the results? If a study is judged only by whether its results agree with out experience, then don’t we know the answer beforehand? There are ways to determine whether a trial is fair or not…please see the scientific method.
As for my vitamin box, it includes an essential oils mixture (which includes flax) and a specific omega 3 pill bottle that tastes like fish when I burp. But I repeat, my experience is not important nor am I telling you about it to convince you of anything about vitamins or organic food. You can spend all your life trying to figure out the difference between your experience and someone else’s and never get it right, our lives are complicated and full of changes we don’t pay enough attention to.
PJ.. (Rustic, I’m not trying to change your opinion or convince your of anything. I’m trying to explain what science-based medicine is all about. If you’re not interested, again what are you doing on this website?)
I didn’t come here to try and change/convince everyone to not believe/accept what you believe/accept as science based medicine…nor did I misunderstand what science-based medicine is. I only wanted to address this idea of labeling everything outside of it as “quackery”, and, what I seem to sense now, a desire to shut down/control/marginalize things like vitamins, and information on the internet, because it doesn’t agree with ‘clinically tested’ beliefs also. And, just to add to it…this is about someone’s freedom, what they do/feel is best for their own health, and not be bullied out of it (as in Danielle). No one is or can or should stop you from your choice of ‘medicines’ conventional or not.
I can’t change my experience (more than a “belief” now) to somehow agree even with what you (not just you but to all) accept as unquestioning scientific fact and/or results of clinical testing. I’m not purposely being ‘stubborn’…I doubt anyone could do that. If you jump 5 feet into the air, but clinical testing says..that’s impossible or..’insufficient evidence’..what would you say? oops..I guess I can’t jump 5 feet into the air then?…silly example, but that’s what I mean. You know what you did, maybe someone measured what you did, maybe even someone else you know did the same thing!… but clinical tests say it’s “impossible”..or actually, most I’ve come across will say “insufficient evidence”. What that has translated to some in ‘science-based medicine’ it seems is…”therefore it’s not possible”, and you’re an idiot, liar, moron, fraud, “dangerous”, (that kind of got me…considering the real dangers of conventional medicine results (not from you, but from others).. quack, less than human..etc.
lol anyway…thanks for being civil, I apologize for some of my own reactions too…nice talking.
@rustichealthy,
“I didn’t come here to try and change/convince everyone to not believe/accept what you believe/accept as science based medicine…nor did I misunderstand what science-based medicine is. I only wanted to address this idea of labeling everything outside of it as “quackery”, and, what I seem to sense now, a desire to shut down/control/marginalize things like vitamins, and information on the internet, because it doesn’t agree with ‘clinically tested’ beliefs also. And, just to add to it…this is about someone’s freedom, what they do/feel is best for their own health, and not be bullied out of it (as in Danielle). No one is or can or should stop you from your choice of ‘medicines’ conventional or not.”
I hear you. But we have tried to show you that we are NOT just automatically labeling everything outside of science-based medicine as quackery, that we are not trying to shut down/control/marginalize things like vitamins, and we certainly do not advocate censorship of any kind. We have no intention of interfering with anyone’s freedom of choice; we only want their choices to be informed by accurate information and by an understanding of how personal experiences can mislead people. We tell you this and yet you keep making the same false accusations. We explain why anecdotal evidence alone can never persuade us, yet you keep offering anecdotal evidence. We try to explain that scientific studies can produce conflicting results and that the whole body of research must be put into perspective, let you keep offering single citations in isolation or even simply opinions in support of your beliefs. You have admitted that yours is a belief system yet you haven’t accepted that SBM will never accept beliefs unsupported by good evidence. We have tried to explain to you how personal experiences frequently lead to false conclusions about what works, yet you are unwilling to even consider the possibility that those all-too-human flaws of cognition might apply to you. You seem not to be hearing what we are saying, but simply are simply repeating the same arguments that we have already rejected. Your quest here is understandable but surely you can see that it has failed. At this point you are only wasting your time and garnering ridicule. It is past time for you to give up, to accept that belief and science are never going to see eye-to-eye, and to look for another audience more receptive to your beliefs.
You have had your say. We have understood your message. I am personally appealing to you to stop posting here.
A new article by Bill Sardi draws a connection between asthma and aspirin-induced vit. C deficiency:
http://knowledgeofhealth.com/isnt-aspirin-induced-asthma-result-drug-induced-vitamin-c-deficiency/
“A new article by Bill Sardi draws a connection between asthma and aspirin-induced vit. C deficiency:”
And his qualifications are …..?
RH, we’ve explained, at length, why your own experience is inadequate for causal deductions. This is particularly acute when comparing one person’s experience to that of a systematic review. If personal experience were adequate to discover truthful facts about the world, then we wouldn’t have needed the scientific method to figure out how to make cars, computers, MRIs, telescopes and medicine. Keep in mind the basis for bloodletting as a medical intervention for thousands of years was “personal experience”. It wasn’t until the 19th century that Pierre Charles Alexandre Louis took the staggeringly obvious step (to us) of comparing the number of patients who survived or improved based on treatments to determine which interventions were superior. Up until this point, everyone did what you did – I tried something, something else happened, therefore what I did worked. Perhaps you should try bloodletting and see if that improves any of your symptoms. So no, your experience is not adequate to provide advice. I just hope your advice never lands anyone in the hospital or morgue.
Also, if organic food were medicine, we would not have seen dramatic leaps in life expectancy concomitant with the advent of industrialized agriculture. We’ve always had food, but we’ve only had medicine for perhaps 150 years – yet people are now living far longer than they were in the past.
In science, simple answers are often wrong, and often offered by people who haven’t studied the topic in any depth. The simple answers are long gone, and it now takes decades of study to get to the point that you can even understand the most recent research on a topic. So again, personal experience is not adequate, and can be quite dangerous.
His belief in anti-aging medicine, the latest tred in separating the wealthy elderly from their money. Still, I’m happier the money go there than to a Peter Popoff rip-off.
I love how he criticizes modern medicine for ignoring the problem…then cites over 30 links to pubmed that address vitamin C, asthma and aspirin-induced asthma. Yep, I hate the way science ignores problems by studying them for more than 40 years.
This is yet another place where Dara O’Briain’s commentary on quackery is instructive.
Gold.
Yes, please! Rusti, go find another hobby. I for one would love to stay tell you where you are again wrong, but is now time for the annual migration of the college student, and I have to go help him move a load.
Ok..I’m going
Thanks for that link Jeff..:) William, again..look at the dangers of what conventional meds are doing first. Thanks Harriet, PJ, pmoran, David Gorski, can you notify me if and when you make a post op on my site as you stated..I would love to banter about it …thank you!
First:
You say “look at the dangers of what conventional meds are doing first”. Wrong. One must first look at the dangers of not giving the medications, and then decide if the adverse effects are worth the risk.
As has been repeated many, many times, one must consider the benefits of drugs as well as their risks. Heparin is dangerous and can lead to bleeding out – but can also disrupt clots that cause strokes. And I’d rather not die of a stroke if I have the choice. Whenever some knee-jerk critic of drugs and “Big Pharma” points out drugs have risks (a not-trivial but certainly not surprising fact), they consistently ignore that drugs are given for a reason. Perhaps your doctor is different, but I have never been handed a drug and told to take it unless it was to address a medical complaint. Does your doctor’s office simply hand out prescriptions without an appointment? If so, you should report them to the appropriate medical supervisory body for malpractice. You could also try a class-action lawsuit since that’s pretty blatant malpractice.
Second:
There is a rigorous system of evaluation and safety testing designed to establish the effectiveness, adverse effects and therapeutic window of drugs. The result is a general awareness of what a drug is good for, at what dose, and what adverse effects are dangerous versus merely annoying. There’s a packaging insert included with all drugs indicating what adverse effects to look out for. And for medications with serious risks and a narrow window of safety (of which there generally are not many, and which would be restricted for use only in extreme situations such as cancer or immediate death) your doctor and probably pharmacist will brief you on what to expect and look out for. Each treatment, drug, surgical or otherwise, will have a unique set of risks and benefits, so lumping them all into a single category is flat-out wrong. Some molecules should be approved, some should, and some are equivocal. Pretending they are all vicious poisons is absurd (particularly coming from someone who doesn’t seem to appreciate the dangers of hypervitaminosis.
Third:
Your recommendations are aimed at the wrong person as I do not take any chronic medications. I follow my doctor’s advice to eat whole foods, exercise and get enough sleep. My cholesterol, blood pressure and other indicators of basic good health are quite good. So please keep your advice to yourself, it is unwanted, inaccurate and misguided. Of the three minor health complaints I have had in the past year, one required no medication and the second resolved with minor discomfort after following my doctor’s recommendations and the third vanished within three days of starting antibiotics. I’ll trust him, because if I compare my choices (on one hand, a doctor with up to 15 years of schooling and decades of practice, drawing upon the lessons of thousands of very, very smart scientists and practitioners using methods designed to reduce bias and improve the chance of arriving at a correct answer; on the other hand, someone whose qualifications appear to be “living in the country”, “thinks vitamins are magic” and “doesn’t know the definition of ‘chemical’ or ‘toxin’”) I’m going to go with my doctor. Because I want to live a long, healthy life.
Responding to my points about the dangers of confirmation bias with a comment about the dangers of prescription medication is a complete non sequiter.