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  • mother goddam { Certainly- if there are edible wild plants to be had. I’m not sure that happens much in times of real famine. Famine from drought means… } – May 24, 6:51 PM
  • estockly { >>>The evidence that exists does not and cannot differentiate between sugar as a specific macronutrient and calories in general. So, you disagree with the AND… } – May 24, 5:48 PM
  • estockly { I still have no idea how you come to determine whether the science behind recommendations is good or bad? Is it good science when the… } – May 24, 5:46 PM
  • estockly { But I am having a hard time imagining say, Vilsak, preventing, say, CDC from releasing guidance on some dietary threat that becomes clear. Me too…. } – May 24, 5:35 PM
  • estockly { We did not evolve the lactase gene after agriculture and in response to dairy farming. We had it the whole time. It was an issue… } – May 24, 5:21 PM
  • mother goddam { ” They often respond very poorly to the “soft-sell” approach that Peter is enamored with, and, in fact, perceive it as elitist.” Because it seems… } – May 24, 4:58 PM
  • Simba { Mother Goddam- or they can be bled for food. Mix your wild plants with a little grain and the blood, and cook, and you can… } – May 24, 4:44 PM
  • mother goddam { Speaking of presumptuous assumptions, agricultural division: “the milk coming out of a healthy-looking goat is likely to be healthy, too.” Tuberculous goats, sheep and cows… } – May 24, 4:39 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { LOL. An excellent point! The evolutionary advantage that Ed is haphazardly arguing for is one that improves carbohydrate metabolism!. I got so wrapped up in… } – May 24, 3:48 PM
  • Nell on Wheels { I believe Ed is referring to PUBLIC LAW 101-44—OCT. 22, 1990, (aka “National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990″.) Specifically TITLE III DIETARY… } – May 24, 3:20 PM
  • MadisonMD { Not only is Ed’s milk evolution argument a ridiculous unsupportable off topic digression, but milk is full of simple sugar! Did someone forget what lactose… } – May 24, 2:55 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { There was (and still is) good evidence that sugar as a large proportion of the diet is unhealthy and that fat is not a nutrient… } – May 24, 2:20 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { Oh Ed. You really need to stop making arguments with assumptions that are wrong. You should go and check your facts before you actually plunk… } – May 24, 2:18 PM
  • estockly { Wrong. You are judging past guidelines with the evidence of today. It was the best science of the time. It is no longer supported. Wrong…. } – May 24, 2:02 PM
  • estockly { Your logic is that because it took some centuries to develop a fully robust dairy culture that means it cannot be the source of calories… } – May 24, 1:48 PM
  • estockly { Although I do know vegan nutritional professionals of various naming conventions so they aren’t implying they went to RD school who do want to avoid… } – May 24, 12:49 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { Whatever Ed. You are rather obstinate. It is truly pointless to continue unpacking all the missteps in your logic and argument. You are much like… } – May 24, 12:46 PM
  • Sawyerrr { I think our friend Peter has spent too much time among academics, marketing gurus, and communication “experts”. I recognize when Windriven’s style can be grating… } – May 24, 12:37 PM
  • estockly { I find it rather amusing that these links and comments you provided actually support our position much more than yours. No argument there…. For example… } – May 24, 12:34 PM
  • Nell on Wheels { ;-) } – May 24, 12:33 PM
  • David Gorski { By “obvious,” in cancer I meant general mechanisms, not molecular targets. For instance, nearly all of the cancer drugs discovered during the “golden age” were… } – May 24, 12:21 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { Funny that. Pretty much the conclusion we here have held this entire time. } – May 24, 12:16 PM
  • Nell on Wheels { I don’t know if Ed’s aware of the LCHF conference held in Cape Town this past February 19-27. Transcripts/videos don’t seem to be available yet,… } – May 24, 11:58 AM
  • Drey Pavlov { So first is the inherent assumption that is simply not borne out by the data: But do adults with a reasonable amount of intelligence and… } – May 24, 11:20 AM
  • KayMarie { I think he’s referring to this, but who knows. http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015-binder/2015/dietaryGuidelinesLegislation.aspx Although I do know vegan nutritional professionals of various naming conventions so they aren’t implying… } – May 24, 11:07 AM
  • Drey Pavlov { We both agree (I think) that the ability to consume dairy products provided an evolutionary fitness advantage to some peoples/cultures. Right? Correct. Considering that domestication… } – May 24, 10:56 AM
  • KayMarie { How does right to try make it less complicated and how does it force the drug company to give the OK? } – May 24, 10:47 AM
  • Drey Pavlov { Yet again you completely and utterly miss the point. And decide to try and show i am incorrect by adding after the fact that you… } – May 24, 10:44 AM
  • jacknyc { I was a motorcyclist from 1966 through 1996, who went down more or less regularly, until ‘the frequency and severity of injuries crossed my danger… } – May 24, 10:42 AM
  • David Gorski { Which is, of course, not an answer explaining how this libertarian paradise would keep quackery from running rampant. } – May 24, 10:33 AM
  • Drey Pavlov { The current guidelines in force right now limit total fat; further limit saturated fat; have much higher limits on added sugars and a strict limit… } – May 24, 10:32 AM
  • David Gorski { If getting a compassionate use exemption were so easy back in the 1980s, then why were there so many AIDS activists besieging the FDA with… } – May 24, 10:32 AM
  • Drey Pavlov { I find it rather amusing that these links and comments you provided actually support our position much more than yours. For example the second link… } – May 24, 10:30 AM
  • weing { I still have no idea how you come to determine whether the science behind recommendations is good or bad? Is it good science when the… } – May 24, 10:05 AM
  • Windriven { ” The USDA dietary guidelines are the official policy of the US government on diet and nutrition and the USDA/HHS has veto power over any… } – May 24, 9:49 AM
  • MadisonMD { Always tilting at windmills. I’d ask you to provide cites, but your statements are irrelevant. Now you do trust the AND. Or don’t you? You… } – May 24, 8:38 AM
  • Simba { You can reach reproductive age and bear many children on a variety of diets, that will be likely the strongest evolutionary pressure. I can’t help… } – May 24, 8:36 AM
  • Windriven { I thought it was because alligators preferred the flavor and chewy texture of Southerners and especially the spicy goodness of Cajuns. But that might be… } – May 24, 8:13 AM
  • Windriven { “[D]o adults with a reasonable amount of intelligence and maturity and the ability to make decisions regarding their own personal well being need to be… } – May 24, 8:03 AM
  • Befuddling { I apologise if I did not make that clear in my post; I will update it to clarify. } – May 24, 12:54 AM
  • KayMarie { There could be other things but something that improves fitness under one set of circumstances does not necessarily improve fitness under all subsequent circumstances. So… } – May 23, 11:40 PM
  • Simba { Tgobbi was quoting someone else in those paragraphs, a chiropractor who you can find by googling those sentences. It’s not obvious that that was the… } – May 23, 11:12 PM
  • estockly { Wait, the disagreement here is not evolution, it’s dietary. We both agree (I think) that the ability to consume dairy products provided an evolutionary fitness… } – May 23, 10:28 PM
  • estockly { The AND is the governing body for Registered Dietitians in the US. They also provide accreditation for education programs at colleges and universities with approval… } – May 23, 10:19 PM
  • WLU { A ripe fruit is one of the great gustatory pleasures of life along with bread, ice cream, maple syrup, mashed potatoes and chocolate. The sole… } – May 23, 9:08 PM
  • Badly Shaved Monkey { CommonSenseBuilder Lets ignore these particular bills and deal with the intent of “right to try”. Picture the FDA not allowing a family member of yours… } – May 23, 7:35 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { But how about this: Many dairy products contain healthy proteins, fats and micronutrients and, with the exception of those with the large proportions of simple… } – May 23, 6:12 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { As usual, spot on Madison. } – May 23, 6:08 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { Again, not based on good science. No, based on excellent science. The data still show that saturated fats likely play some role in CVD. And… } – May 23, 6:07 PM
  • Drey Pavlov { An excellent point KM. I had a friend also struggling with weight and the only way she could think about diet was “this is forbidden”… } – May 23, 6:04 PM
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