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  • mcrislip { My wife picks out all my big boy clothes so I look good when I do what she tells me, despite it being lipstick on… } – Apr 17, 8:15 PM
  • WLU { At the VERY least a supplement, should contain what it claims to contain on the label, and in the appropriate amounts (with some leeway, but… } – Apr 17, 8:09 PM
  • Pmoran { Of course I understand these other issues, but I do apologise if I have misunderstood. The fact is that even though exposed to all these… } – Apr 17, 8:06 PM
  • WLU { Sounds like a good reason to improve the mechanism for drug approval and ongoing testing/monitoring. Totally irrelevant to the near-complete lack of oversight, and total… } – Apr 17, 8:06 PM
  • WLU { The number of people who die from drug use is irrelevant to the safety and efficacy (and contamination, and lack of quality control) of supplements…. } – Apr 17, 8:01 PM
  • WLU { Supplements shouldn’t be made illegal, they’re mostly harmless. But the nudge-nudge-wink-wink structure-function loophole should be closed, they should be tested and monitored so safety can… } – Apr 17, 7:56 PM
  • WLU { Somewhat agree – most supplements are inert, basically just fiber. I would be happy if the tested even just for safety, let alone efficacy. } – Apr 17, 7:45 PM
  • WLU { The FDA and pharmaceutical industry (and medicine in general) has an ideal tool – it’s called the “randomized, placebo-controlled trial”, and it’s trivially easy to… } – Apr 17, 7:44 PM
  • WLU { But I must agree with the action the FDA took, in demanding manufactures to mention the function and benefits of the supplements. THE TRUTH BEHIND… } – Apr 17, 7:43 PM
  • WLU { Missing three key points: 1) The DNA barcoding found evidence of things that were not on the label; that alone is enough to call for… } – Apr 17, 7:39 PM
  • Lytrigian { The answer is yes. Read the whole article. } – Apr 17, 6:55 PM
  • Lytrigian { This might seem reasonable. But the problem is that administering any kind of placebo is ethically questionable, at best. Doctors aren’t conjurers. They’re not illusionists…. } – Apr 17, 6:54 PM
  • Pmoran { Andrey, In what way have I “given up”? Also, your colleagues here sometimes express some nostalgia concerning the more hard-line attitudes of the mainstream towards… } – Apr 17, 6:38 PM
  • Dave Kinard { Those are clearly problems one should not try to cure with supplements. I would generally say it is unlikely one would cure serious diseases with… } – Apr 17, 6:33 PM
  • Dave Kinard { Ridiculous. I sell you what you think is an onion and it turns out to be tomato. By your line of thinking, that’s not the… } – Apr 17, 6:29 PM
  • knotfreak { Hey, we share a lake and Badgerland probably gets more flyover than Michigan. I keep meaning to read up and find out the history of… } – Apr 17, 6:27 PM
  • Dave Kinard { To clarify: The only things people should be allowed to have access to is something that someone has spent a great deal of resources proving… } – Apr 17, 6:25 PM
  • Dave Kinard { Incredibly arrogant. How would one even go about proving effects of things if one has no access to them? } – Apr 17, 6:24 PM
  • Pmoran { .”.. because it is misleading and therefore dishonest”. It can mislead, but those offering testimonials rarely intend to mislead — they are usually giving an… } – Apr 17, 6:10 PM
  • EBMOD { So because a board is potentially abusing their power means that we should just throw out all licensing?! Ever heard the phrase ‘throwing the baby… } – Apr 17, 5:56 PM
  • sadmar { I think we’re basically ‘on the same page’ here… No forgetting. The separation of performance vs.promise is part of the point. “Understanding acupuncture” would be… } – Apr 17, 5:49 PM
  • Chris Graviss { Maybe, but a private sector entity can not forcibly restrain trade between two willing third parties, except through the force of govt. Govt can force… } – Apr 17, 4:14 PM
  • mouse { Who you calling a fly over state? I’ll have you know I petted Courtney Cox’s dogs right here in Michigan. :) Good to know that… } – Apr 17, 3:22 PM
  • Windriven { Because vaccinations pollute one’s precious bodily fluids with evil chemistry. That idiot Patrick Kennedy was recently quoted as saying something to the effect that kids… } – Apr 17, 3:21 PM
  • shay simmons { Why are crunchies so down on sticking needles into the body when it comes to vaccines, but totes ok with acupuncture? } – Apr 17, 2:28 PM
  • Windriven { Good and interesting points, sadmar. But let’s not forget to measure performance against promise. You rightly point out that we “don’t damn Ricola because it… } – Apr 17, 2:19 PM
  • knotfreak { No bow tie, but there was color and panache, which we don’t see much of here in flyover country. } – Apr 17, 2:09 PM
  • Windriven { Chris, You’ll always be able to come up with instances of boards and agencies acting like dicks. I could as easily come up with instances… } – Apr 17, 2:07 PM
  • tmac57 { It’s been a while since I shared this but maybe it will be new to some, so here: https://youtu.be/IS9EwFE-hJo What I’d really like is for… } – Apr 17, 1:47 PM
  • Windriven { hmmm. i’m reluctant to eat any piece of beef that couldn’t recover if stitched up and given a course of antibiotics. And lamb should only… } – Apr 17, 1:39 PM
  • sadmar { “Doesn’t work” is way too vague. “Work” is not a scientific concept. How about “There’s a substantial body of evidence that acupuncture causes no actual… } – Apr 17, 1:36 PM
  • Chris Graviss { Just came across this great example of what licensing boards actually do https://www.facebook.com/bruehlig?composeropen=1#!/instituteforjustice/videos/10153982477889815/ } – Apr 17, 1:27 PM
  • Richard Abbott { Benadryls drowsiness is a side effect for me during allergy season in GA. So potent is the side effect that I don’t use it, and… } – Apr 17, 1:25 PM
  • TsuDhoNimh { “If I had no ethics I would train our phlebotomy techs to tell patients that when they were searching for a good vein from which… } – Apr 17, 1:23 PM
  • MTDoc { Puswhisperer comes to mind. } – Apr 17, 1:13 PM
  • WLU { I don’t see how point 1 can make much of a difference – the Review is primarily a methodological exercise, the literature is the literature…. } – Apr 17, 1:13 PM
  • SAO { The link you offered stated that there is insufficient evidence to conclude Panax Ginseng is effective at treating cancer, but it could make some cancers,… } – Apr 17, 1:06 PM
  • KayMarie { I have the insurance claims to verify the evil beasties sometimes stand their ground. Although the two cows egging the 750 pounds of walking beefsteak… } – Apr 17, 12:59 PM
  • mouse { They are only succulent if you don’t let mr. mouse cook them. } – Apr 17, 12:57 PM
  • mouse { Pretty sure you were the one who was like “cows will shank you in a dark alley as soon as look at you if they… } – Apr 17, 12:56 PM
  • WLU { In the strongest terms possible, please, please, please, please, I urge you to address these failings in a better-designed clinical trial that tests in the… } – Apr 17, 12:51 PM
  • WLU { Until it comes to things like the inherent malevolence of deer and cows.I’m pretty indifferent to their malevolence (they’re prey animals, I make enough noise… } – Apr 17, 12:44 PM
  • WLU { Those “side effects” are your body’s warning signal that what you just took may have relieved some symptoms but is causing harm somewhere else.Those “side… } – Apr 17, 12:43 PM
  • KayMarie { Somedays I long for Usenet and the killfile. Sigh. If you want, you can hover over the right hand corner of a post (slide cursor… } – Apr 17, 12:38 PM
  • WLU { Another bad idea – being able to sell supplements based on structure-function claims rather than on evidence of safety and efficacy. Wouldn’t it be nice… } – Apr 17, 12:36 PM
  • WLU { You know, Merck’s numbers showed that out of 100 test subjects that took statins, 2 of them had a heart attack, as opposed to the… } – Apr 17, 12:35 PM
  • WLU { Don’t assume that everyone is interested in “proof”, or that such a thing even exists.Once people started asking for “proof”, lives grew longer, child mortality… } – Apr 17, 12:32 PM
  • WLU { No, the bottom line is “we can easily explain acupuncture working through pure placebo effects; there is no reason to assume it has some sort… } – Apr 17, 12:23 PM
  • WLU { Did you notice the part about how they asked them at baseline as well as three sessions? Expectations were measured at two points, and it… } – Apr 17, 12:20 PM
  • DevoutCatalyst { Not angry. Listen to his quackcasts, the one on NUCCA comes to mind. Crislip is a goofball in the best sense of the word. } – Apr 17, 12:19 PM
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